Klimaticket: All public transport in Austria with a single ticket for 1095 EUR/y
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Re: Klimaticket: All public transport in Austria with a single ticket for 1095 EUR/y
#2Some context here: previously there was no single ticket you could get for public transport in Austria like you could in Switzerland. There was a yearly ticket for the national rail services but that was it.
With this ticket you can hop into any public transport now from long distance rail to local city trams.
Re: Klimaticket: All public transport in Austria with a single ticket for 1095 EUR/y
#3This should be the preferred way to ride all local transit systems. One price for the whole family, ride as much as you want for the month (I think month is better then year - easier to budget, and if you move you are not out as much). If people aren't willing to pay for the pass, your system isn't useful and you need to fix that. Because it is unlimited rides people are less likely to think about using the car for trips that could go either way.
Note that I said local. For trips to other cities it might (or might not) make sense to charge a different price - such trips are not as common.
Re: Klimaticket: All public transport in Austria with a single ticket for 1095 EUR/y
#4Impressive. It's like the care-free feeling when having a city pass and using whatever transit whenever needed, but scaled to a whole country.
Re: Klimaticket: All public transport in Austria with a single ticket for 1095 EUR/y
#5Some context here: previously there was no single ticket you could get for public transport in Austria like you could in Switzerland. There was a yearly ticket for the national rail services but that was it. With this ticket you can hop into any public transport now from long distance rail to local city trams.
> from long distance rail to local city trams.
That's the part that makes a system like this subjectively unfair.
If my daily commute is a handful of bus stops and that guy's is a train for an hour from another city, then I am basically funding his commute by overpaying for my pass... even if it's cheaper to ride my bus with a pass than to buy a ticket for every ride.
Edit - I read the website as saying that this is going to be the only pass available in Austria. It looks like it's not, which, of course, makes far more sense in comparison.
Re: Klimaticket: All public transport in Austria with a single ticket for 1095 EUR/y
#6Some context here: previously there was no single ticket you could get for public transport in Austria like you could in Switzerland. There was a yearly ticket for the national rail services but that was it. With this ticket you can hop into any public transport now from long distance rail to local city trams.
> from long distance rail to local city trams. That's the part that makes a system like this subjectively unfair. If my daily commute is a handful of bus stops and that guy's is a train for an hour from another city, then I am basically funding his commute by overpaying for my pass... even if it's cheaper to ride my bus with a pass than to buy a ticket for every ride. Edit - I read the website as saying that this is…
I mean this is Europe, and there's much less "this is unfair" versus "we are in this together".
Re: Klimaticket: All public transport in Austria with a single ticket for 1095 EUR/y
#7Some context here: previously there was no single ticket you could get for public transport in Austria like you could in Switzerland. There was a yearly ticket for the national rail services but that was it. With this ticket you can hop into any public transport now from long distance rail to local city trams.
And for comparison, the Swiss equivalent costs around USD 4k a year per person 2nd class
Re: Klimaticket: All public transport in Austria with a single ticket for 1095 EUR/y
#8Some context here: previously there was no single ticket you could get for public transport in Austria like you could in Switzerland. There was a yearly ticket for the national rail services but that was it. With this ticket you can hop into any public transport now from long distance rail to local city trams.
Just to clarify : In Switzerland, one can buy a CA Travelcard (for CHF3860 a year, approximately $3850). With this card, one can travel on (nearly) all public transports in Switzerland (trains, coaches, subways, trams, etc.) free of charge. Since the public transportation system is very good, it's a good way to travel.
Re: Klimaticket: All public transport in Austria with a single ticket for 1095 EUR/y
#9Some context here: previously there was no single ticket you could get for public transport in Austria like you could in Switzerland. There was a yearly ticket for the national rail services but that was it. With this ticket you can hop into any public transport now from long distance rail to local city trams.
> from long distance rail to local city trams. That's the part that makes a system like this subjectively unfair. If my daily commute is a handful of bus stops and that guy's is a train for an hour from another city, then I am basically funding his commute by overpaying for my pass... even if it's cheaper to ride my bus with a pass than to buy a ticket for every ride. Edit - I read the website as saying that this is…
Pretty much all local city transport networks in Europe offer yearly subscriptions. If you just need that, that's already an option.
Re: Klimaticket: All public transport in Austria with a single ticket for 1095 EUR/y
#10Some context here: previously there was no single ticket you could get for public transport in Austria like you could in Switzerland. There was a yearly ticket for the national rail services but that was it. With this ticket you can hop into any public transport now from long distance rail to local city trams.
> from long distance rail to local city trams. That's the part that makes a system like this subjectively unfair. If my daily commute is a handful of bus stops and that guy's is a train for an hour from another city, then I am basically funding his commute by overpaying for my pass... even if it's cheaper to ride my bus with a pass than to buy a ticket for every ride. Edit - I read the website as saying that this is…
I mean, yes, but that's like saying "all you can eat" buffets are unfair.
The only "fix" would be to never offer fixed-rate pricing.
It's a strange complaint, to me.