Klimaticket: All public transport in Austria with a single ticket for 1095 EUR/y

Post by rob74 » Thu, Sep 30, 2021, 2:38 PM UTC

LittleNemoInS wrote: post #8

the_mitsuhiko wrote: post #2

Some context here: previously there was no single ticket you could get for public transport in Austria like you could in Switzerland. There was a yearly ticket for the national rail services but that was it. With this ticket you can hop into any public transport now from long distance rail to local city trams.

Just to clarify : In Switzerland, one can buy a CA Travelcard (for CHF3860 a year, approximately $3850). With this card, one can travel on (nearly) all public transports in Switzerland (trains, coaches, subways, trams, etc.) free of charge. Since the public transportation system is very good, it's a good way to travel.

Post by ginko » Thu, Sep 30, 2021, 2:39 PM UTC

huhtenberg wrote: post #5

the_mitsuhiko wrote: post #2

Some context here: previously there was no single ticket you could get for public transport in Austria like you could in Switzerland. There was a yearly ticket for the national rail services but that was it. With this ticket you can hop into any public transport now from long distance rail to local city trams.

> from long distance rail to local city trams. That's the part that makes a system like this subjectively unfair. If my daily commute is a handful of bus stops and that guy's is a train for an hour from another city, then I am basically funding his commute by overpaying for my pass... even if it's cheaper to ride my bus with a pass than to buy a ticket for every ride. Edit - I read the website as saying that this is…

Post by FlyingSaucer » Thu, Sep 30, 2021, 2:44 PM UTC

scrollaway wrote: post #16

I really want this to exist for Belgium. Right now the public transport prices are absurd here... An all year pass for just the train in all of Belgium ranges in the 10k eur/year, and there is no national metro+bus+tram access (just Brussels is 700 EUR / year for that with no access to other cities). It's absurd and caused by fragmentation of services between Flanders, wallonia and Brussels with no coordination betwe…

Post by welterde » Thu, Sep 30, 2021, 2:50 PM UTC

toshk wrote: post #25

bluGill wrote: post #3

This should be the preferred way to ride all local transit systems. One price for the whole family, ride as much as you want for the month (I think month is better then year - easier to budget, and if you move you are not out as much). If people aren't willing to pay for the pass, your system isn't useful and you need to fix that. Because it is unlimited rides people are less likely to think about using the car for t…

Hmmm, problem is if it would be the dominant way of buying tickets the transport organisation would loose even more incentive to be customer oriented. Many public transportation companies, for instance Deutche Bahn, are awful and rude. They are often semi-public and semi-monopolistic, imagine paying them a year budget up front, would make things even worse.

Post by quadrifoliate » Thu, Sep 30, 2021, 2:52 PM UTC