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Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Post by burnte »

chewmieser wrote: post #8

Apple is very clear that this is how things work now. They even give you a dialog prompt now to inform you of this change the first time you try to shut your device off - https://9to5mac.com/2021/06/07/ios-15-find-my-network-can-fi... I'm not sure why this is presented as some new thing, or a gotcha or whatever this is. We've known about it for months... And IMO, it's a positive change although it does sound a little…

Because frankly a lot of us didn't know about it. Not everyone is aware of the same things. Some of us think that powering off a device should power it off.

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Post by wrycoder »

defaultname wrote: post #32
AndrewStephens wrote: post #2

Umm, isn’t this, like maybe, a good thing? If I want my very expensive iPhone found, I want it found whether it is on or off. If people are worried about being tracked maybe they should carry around a device that is always broadcasting radio signals to third party towers.

For the vast majority of people in the vast majority of situations, it's a very good thing and is ideal behavior. It is only in conspiratorial "but what if nation states are tracking me" noise that this is cast as a bad thing.

People who attended the 06Jan rally and were not even on the Capitol grounds had their phones tracked. Some of them got a SWAT visit in the wee hours weeks later.

It’s not so far fetched.

I’ll also mention that Ćhina will find this new feature very helpful and are no doubt grateful.

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Post by [deleted] »

SilverRed wrote: post #192
kgarten wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know I feel Apple really got worse than the competition. It started with "You are holding it wrong.", horrible keyboards, "you need to use USB-C for everything, except our iphones come with lighting + old USB cables", to charge your mouse you need to plugin the cable on the bottom etc. That's kind of standard. Yet, the recent moves: Snitch Software that works against the user with a worldwide localization net…

This is sort of more of the same as what I was saying. Android phones have horrible hardware flaws and they don't gain much attention. At the same time as "You are holding it wrong" Nexus 5x phones where bricking due to bad NAND chips. Nexus 6P phones where crashing due to battery issues similar to the iphone but they did not throttle the phone and left it to crash. Samsung had phones that would explode in to firebal…

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Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Post by edmundsauto »

karaterobot wrote: post #170
jdavis703 wrote: post #169

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But whenever you go to the power down mode a warning about offline location is displayed. There’s no need for an eidetic memory.

If that was a trick, it worked. No dialog though.

Just checked (on the latest OS) and there's text right beneath the slider you use to turn it off. Tapping the link indicator in the text pops it up.

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Post by perl4ever »

calyth2018 wrote: post #9

Not exactly new. The old BlackBerries allows you to "turn off" the device and have the alarm wake you up. It basically drops into a low power mode. It was easy to make a phone dead. You yanked out the batteries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wake-on-LAN

I never used it, but remember it from BIOS settings.

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Post by Dylan16807 »

elzbardico wrote: post #204
lucb1e wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I click every global tracking network link out there and am on HN daily and often more time than I perhaps should. This is the first I hear of it. Yeah I really need to get out from under this rock and spend more time on HN.

Well, what you want me to say?

"Oh, maybe it's not as much common knowledge as I thought."

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Post by gnicholas »

todd3834 wrote: post #22

This article has me wondering if I’ve ever turned my phone off besides restarting it or the battery died. I’m sure I have but I bet it is very uncommon. That being said, if it were off and lost, this feature would be amazing. Apple is very transparent about it and also allows you to disable it as far as I remember. The OP has a follow up tweet that iOS 15 made their phone hot during charging. Kind of feels like they…

I would bet that a lot of owners of newer iPhones don't even know how to turn them off. It used to just require holding down the sleep/power button and then swiping across the screen. On newer iPhones, you have to (in order): hold down one of the volume buttons, then hold down the sleep/power button, then swipe across the screen.

I honestly didn't know this until I just googled it. Apparently what I've been doing (vol+, vol-, sleep/power) is the 'hard reset'.

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Post by [deleted] »

rjh29 wrote: post #43
todd3834 wrote: post #22

This article has me wondering if I’ve ever turned my phone off besides restarting it or the battery died. I’m sure I have but I bet it is very uncommon. That being said, if it were off and lost, this feature would be amazing. Apple is very transparent about it and also allows you to disable it as far as I remember. The OP has a follow up tweet that iOS 15 made their phone hot during charging. Kind of feels like they…

There is an obvious trend on HN turning against Apple since the image hash stuff. Search 'Apple' in the last month and you'll see stories about Apple screwing over blind people, copying other people's ideas, screwing over employees, removing apps from the app store, disabling FaceID if you try to change the screen etc. From my POV (a non-Apple user) they have not changed, they have always been pretty anti-consumer. B…

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Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Post by fastball »

dylan604 wrote: post #118
sixbrx wrote: post #68

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Settings -> (Your Name/Apple ID ...) -> Find My -> Find My iPhone -> Find My Network in latest iOS.

Does 5 levels deep count as easy to find?

Yes, because the levels are a super obvious progression unless you're being deliberately obtuse.
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