iPhone remains findable after power off
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iPhone remains findable after power off
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Re: iPhone remains findable after power off
#2Umm, isn’t this, like maybe, a good thing? If I want my very expensive iPhone found, I want it found whether it is on or off.
If people are worried about being tracked maybe they should carry around a device that is always broadcasting radio signals to third party towers.
Re: iPhone remains findable after power off
#3Umm, isn’t this, like maybe, a good thing? If I want my very expensive iPhone found, I want it found whether it is on or off. If people are worried about being tracked maybe they should carry around a device that is always broadcasting radio signals to third party towers.
Maybe you don't want to be tracked sometimes, and you expect turning off your device to turn it off.
Re: iPhone remains findable after power off
#4Umm, isn’t this, like maybe, a good thing? If I want my very expensive iPhone found, I want it found whether it is on or off. If people are worried about being tracked maybe they should carry around a device that is always broadcasting radio signals to third party towers.
No. A device thats "off" should be "off" 100% of the time. When the device wakes it realizes it's been stolen, only then should it reach for home. This behavior can/will only be exploited by hostile nations and other bad actors.
Re: iPhone remains findable after power off
#5Umm, isn’t this, like maybe, a good thing? If I want my very expensive iPhone found, I want it found whether it is on or off. If people are worried about being tracked maybe they should carry around a device that is always broadcasting radio signals to third party towers.
Maybe you don't want to be tracked sometimes, and you expect turning off your device to turn it off.
Exactly. For example, when you're a phone thief.
Re: iPhone remains findable after power off
#6Umm, isn’t this, like maybe, a good thing? If I want my very expensive iPhone found, I want it found whether it is on or off. If people are worried about being tracked maybe they should carry around a device that is always broadcasting radio signals to third party towers.
Off should mean off. Sleeping means that it can be woken up, woken up means that it microphones can be turned on and etc.
Re: iPhone remains findable after power off
#7Umm, isn’t this, like maybe, a good thing? If I want my very expensive iPhone found, I want it found whether it is on or off. If people are worried about being tracked maybe they should carry around a device that is always broadcasting radio signals to third party towers.
No. A device thats "off" should be "off" 100% of the time. When the device wakes it realizes it's been stolen, only then should it reach for home. This behavior can/will only be exploited by hostile nations and other bad actors.
You’re both correct, but Apple is optimizing for the majority with their ‘Find My’ network, where the majority don’t have a threat model which includes exploitation of a target by a nation state actor.
It’s a toggle in Settings to turn off this functionality for those who want the surface area reduction, or an RF shielded bag if you don’t trust the toggle ;)
Re: iPhone remains findable after power off
#8Apple is very clear that this is how things work now. They even give you a dialog prompt now to inform you of this change the first time you try to shut your device off - https://9to5mac.com/2021/06/07/ios-15-find-my-network-can-fi...
I'm not sure why this is presented as some new thing, or a gotcha or whatever this is. We've known about it for months... And IMO, it's a positive change although it does sound a little weird.
Re: iPhone remains findable after power off
#9Not exactly new.
The old BlackBerries allows you to "turn off" the device and have the alarm wake you up. It basically drops into a low power mode.
It was easy to make a phone dead. You yanked out the batteries.
Re: iPhone remains findable after power off
#10Umm, isn’t this, like maybe, a good thing? If I want my very expensive iPhone found, I want it found whether it is on or off. If people are worried about being tracked maybe they should carry around a device that is always broadcasting radio signals to third party towers.
Maybe you don't want to be tracked sometimes, and you expect turning off your device to turn it off.
What situation are you going, "I don't want big tech to be tracking me right now"?