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Re: Secret military aircraft possibly exposed on TikTok

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Post by ogma »

xvector wrote: post #102
kyleblarson wrote: post #58

I'm sure it's just because I'm too old to be in the target demographic but 9 times out of 10 when I see a Tik Tok video online (I don't have an account) the level of narcissism and lack of decorum on display is sickening.

In about 5-10 minutes of use, the TikTok algo will nail your preferences and you won't see those videos anymore. It's the most well-tailored social media platform I've seen. Eventually you will only see what gives you positive vibes (or whatever vibes it is you want to chase.)

That's not true. There is no content on Tik Tok that gives me positive vibes.

Re: Secret military aircraft possibly exposed on TikTok

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Post by kbenson »

baybal2 wrote: post #98
kbenson wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. Don't allow smartphones around top secret facilities? That seems a sane precaution. Or require them be vetted.

Even if they carry them off duty only, it's a crapton of useful intel info that can be harvested from more or less open data.

Yes. So it people tagging pictures or leaving reviews on Yelp. Is your suggestion that off-duty people during their personal time should not use social media for purely personal ends with personal info, as long as it's for things that are not already to not be done while working with security clearance?

Otherwise, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

Re: Secret military aircraft possibly exposed on TikTok

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Post by nightpool »

baybal2 wrote: post #73
kbenson wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree it's not necessarily the same, but also think that it's bad to have any social media in a top secret context. That said, it's pretty obvious the bias the source has: - "and posted it to the Chinese government-affiliated platform." - "social media platform tied to America’s top adversary" The problem here is people sharing stuff publicly which they are obviously not supposed to. The rest is just theater, even…

Even if they don't share, it is a piece of spyware they have on their phone, called Google Android. I believe PLA uses its assets within Google, and other American dotcoms to the fullest extend, and they already pulled every info they can through their Android Store accounts on them. Even a running meme of spy agency, the Saudi Army intel wing managed to have their men operate within Google for years. Imagine now wha…

> the Saudi Army intel wing managed to have their men operate within Google for years.

Do you have a source for this? I spent a while searching, but I couldn't find anything that would corroborate your claim

Re: Secret military aircraft possibly exposed on TikTok

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Post by Kretinsky »

kbenson wrote: post #66
Frost1x wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It's not clear why TikTok is singled out here, this could just has easily been posted to Facebook or Instagram or one of the other myriad of social media platforms, or pushed automatically to someone's open photo album in the cloud. There's an additional layer here that's often ignored: that specific piece of information that leaked is the same regardless of what platform it was released on, but if it was released o…

I agree it's not necessarily the same, but also think that it's bad to have any social media in a top secret context. That said, it's pretty obvious the bias the source has: - "and posted it to the Chinese government-affiliated platform." - "social media platform tied to America’s top adversary" The problem here is people sharing stuff publicly which they are obviously not supposed to. The rest is just theater, even…

As a non-american, it's always interesting to see the point of view of the major military power. Why is China "America's top adversary"?

Aside from the OPSEC issue, which is understandable, why does the author - and I guess it's a widespread view - considers China as America's utmost adversary? Can't there exist two rich and prosperous countries? Why does the author uses such jingoist terms? How should other countries consider America, then?

Re: Secret military aircraft possibly exposed on TikTok

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Post by ezconnect »

kyleblarson wrote: post #58

I'm sure it's just because I'm too old to be in the target demographic but 9 times out of 10 when I see a Tik Tok video online (I don't have an account) the level of narcissism and lack of decorum on display is sickening.

Whenever someone talks about TikTok, I remember how MySpace was attracting users because someone has a very sexual images on it and it's the same how TikTok is now promoted.

Re: Secret military aircraft possibly exposed on TikTok

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Post by duxup »

When we used to send people to secure sites the rule was no electronics ever left the more secure facilities.

You didn't bring anything you weren't prepared to part with.

How smartphones or any electronics that don't belong to the facility are allowed at all is beyond me. They're perfect spying devices.

Re: Secret military aircraft possibly exposed on TikTok

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Post by alana314 »

Johnny555 wrote: post #17

An OPSEC violation has once again made a case for why using TikTok should be a punishable offense in the military, It's not clear why TikTok is singled out here, this could just has easily been posted to Facebook or Instagram or one of the other myriad of social media platforms, or pushed automatically to someone's open photo album in the cloud. If OPSEC is important, don't let people bring their personal camera phon…

Unless it's cropped, it was shot in landscape so probably not TikTok

Re: Secret military aircraft possibly exposed on TikTok

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Post by kbenson »

kindle-dev wrote: post #92
kbenson wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While Tiktok is technically slightly worse, focusing on that rather than the gaping real problem of publicly posting top secret info is missing the forest for the trees. Solve the problem of people posting this to social media and it won't matter if the company is US owned and operated or foreign owned and operated because neither will have anything to work with.

Responding to your other comment: the app has access to your camera. Nothing is stopping it from using your camera, without your knowledge, and then uploading what it captures while a user browses their TikTok feed.

Then don't allow people to keep smartphones while in secure areas?

My point is, the problem is posting to social media, or using a device that's insecure. There's plenty of apps that a user could be tricked into installed that are much worse than TikTok and that will have much less public scrutiny.

That TikTok is affiliated with the China in some way is a red herring. There's no reason to solve the problem of TikTok if you solve the general problem of people using unapproved applications (which all social media would obviously be unapproved in secure areas) or insecure devices.

Otherwise what you'll find is that Facebook as some Cambridge Analytica type situation going on, and some Chinese shell company ends up using it to get special access and details, and the same thing as this happens through Facebook and China has special additional info and "TikTok fix" helped solve exactly nothing.

Bringing up that TikTok is associated with China in the article is useful in showing people some of the ramifications of the problem. Focusing on that as the problem leads people to think banning TikTok is the answer, when it clearly is not, since it doesn't go nearly far enough in combating the problem.

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