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Re: Secret military aircraft possibly exposed on TikTok

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Post by Johnny555 »

tablespoon wrote: post #65
Johnny555 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would assume that once a photo hits any social media, the Chinese and other adversaries (and allies) have already scraped it.

> I would assume that once a photo hits any social media, the Chinese and other adversaries (and allies) have already scraped it. Don't all the social media companies make it hard to scrape their sites, especially in bulk? It's definitely impossible to contain something once it's all over a bunch of blogs like this, but it might be possible to contain some things if caught early enough. There's also the private messa…

Don't all the social media companies make it hard to scrape their sites, especially in bulk

When you can throw unlimited developers and real humans at it, it's not so hard to scrape. I'd be willing to bet money that there are Chinese affiliated agents (possibly based in the USA or other countries) in every military related Facebook group.

Re: Secret military aircraft possibly exposed on TikTok

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Post by kindle-dev »

kbenson wrote: post #72
kindle-dev wrote: post #40

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The TikTok app may have camera access and location access. It could capture images and send them to China when it detects its on a military base without the user even knowing. It’s so annoying to see “what about X” comments on every story with almost no thought put into the response.

While Tiktok is technically slightly worse, focusing on that rather than the gaping real problem of publicly posting top secret info is missing the forest for the trees. Solve the problem of people posting this to social media and it won't matter if the company is US owned and operated or foreign owned and operated because neither will have anything to work with.

Responding to your other comment: the app has access to your camera. Nothing is stopping it from using your camera, without your knowledge, and then uploading what it captures while a user browses their TikTok feed.

Re: Secret military aircraft possibly exposed on TikTok

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Post by kbenson »

baybal2 wrote: post #73
kbenson wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree it's not necessarily the same, but also think that it's bad to have any social media in a top secret context. That said, it's pretty obvious the bias the source has: - "and posted it to the Chinese government-affiliated platform." - "social media platform tied to America’s top adversary" The problem here is people sharing stuff publicly which they are obviously not supposed to. The rest is just theater, even…

Even if they don't share, it is a piece of spyware they have on their phone, called Google Android. I believe PLA uses its assets within Google, and other American dotcoms to the fullest extend, and they already pulled every info they can through their Android Store accounts on them. Even a running meme of spy agency, the Saudi Army intel wing managed to have their men operate within Google for years. Imagine now wha…

Yes. Don't allow smartphones around top secret facilities? That seems a sane precaution. Or require them be vetted.

Re: Secret military aircraft possibly exposed on TikTok

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Post by lupire »

Frost1x wrote: post #46
Johnny555 wrote: post #17

An OPSEC violation has once again made a case for why using TikTok should be a punishable offense in the military, It's not clear why TikTok is singled out here, this could just has easily been posted to Facebook or Instagram or one of the other myriad of social media platforms, or pushed automatically to someone's open photo album in the cloud. If OPSEC is important, don't let people bring their personal camera phon…

>It's not clear why TikTok is singled out here, this could just has easily been posted to Facebook or Instagram or one of the other myriad of social media platforms, or pushed automatically to someone's open photo album in the cloud. There's an additional layer here that's often ignored: that specific piece of information that leaked is the same regardless of what platform it was released on, but if it was released o…

Everyone's individual location data is sold by data brokers.

Re: Secret military aircraft possibly exposed on TikTok

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Post by fragmede »

beezle wrote: post #63
kindle-dev wrote: post #49

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I was responding to the comment asking why TikTok should be banned vs. other social media.

I suppose then that it is OK for foreign governments to ban FB, Insta, etc? After all, we all know what lengths the US via NSA will go to.

There's a difference between the government banning an app from a country entirely, and banning anyone in their military from using an app or even a smart phone or anything with a camera, especially inside a military base!

Re: Secret military aircraft possibly exposed on TikTok

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Post by adolph »

blunte wrote: post #74
kindle-dev wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The TikTok app may have camera access and location access. It could capture images and send them to China when it detects its on a military base without the user even knowing. It’s so annoying to see “what about X” comments on every story with almost no thought put into the response.

On a base with top secret information, I'm amazed there would be private phones in operation there. The government may be pretty stupid about some things, but they absolutely know the 1000+ threat vectors within modern mobile phones.

Been an issue for a while

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/28/fitness-tracki...

Re: Secret military aircraft possibly exposed on TikTok

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Post by vsnf »

kyleblarson wrote: post #58

I'm sure it's just because I'm too old to be in the target demographic but 9 times out of 10 when I see a Tik Tok video online (I don't have an account) the level of narcissism and lack of decorum on display is sickening.

Indeed, and you aren’t the only one who feels that way. There’s a relatively popular YouTube channel dedicated to documenting narcissism on social media

https://youtube.com/shorts/iik6btbRXsw

Re: Secret military aircraft possibly exposed on TikTok

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Post by baybal2 »

kbenson wrote: post #93
baybal2 wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if they don't share, it is a piece of spyware they have on their phone, called Google Android. I believe PLA uses its assets within Google, and other American dotcoms to the fullest extend, and they already pulled every info they can through their Android Store accounts on them. Even a running meme of spy agency, the Saudi Army intel wing managed to have their men operate within Google for years. Imagine now wha…

Yes. Don't allow smartphones around top secret facilities? That seems a sane precaution. Or require them be vetted.

Even if they carry them off duty only, it's a crapton of useful intel info that can be harvested from more or less open data.

Re: Secret military aircraft possibly exposed on TikTok

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Post by kindle-dev »

wonnage wrote: post #81
kindle-dev wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The TikTok app may have camera access and location access. It could capture images and send them to China when it detects its on a military base without the user even knowing. It’s so annoying to see “what about X” comments on every story with almost no thought put into the response.

It's as annoying to see all these unfounded comments like yours making China some sort of omniscient bogeyman.

I'm not making China out to be an omniscient bogeyman. The U.S. has used companies to gain access to secure systems in other countries. It's just a reality that ANY country can do this. To deny that is to either be a shill, or woefully ignorant.
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