My kid took a routine test and was found to have 5.0 μg/dL, which is elevated but not alarming. The source is most likely paint chips or dust. I'm in an old building which has lead paint that was painted over. It's totally legal to just paint over the lead paint, but since the building is settling the paint on the door frames often chips off. My landlord has been good about offering to strip in repaint the frames, bu…
If done right the stripping will absolutely be the right move. Cleaning will only get you so far. Your state should have licensed lead remediation contractors
Half of American kids have lead in their blood, doctors say
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Re: Half of American kids have lead in their blood, doctors say
#182My wife and I are particularly concerned about lead, especially since there is no way to really cure lead poisoning. Any house built before the 1980s could have lead in it, with varying degrees of concern for children. Around the home here is what we found are sources of lead to worry about (or not): - Paint: lead was banned in paint in 1979, but lead was used less and less even before the cutoff date. Paint is espec…
Don't forget the soil in your yard, even if the house was built yesterday the soil could still have lead contamination from leaded gasoline.
And I totally wonder whether people are growing food there, soaking all of that up.
Re: Half of American kids have lead in their blood, doctors say
#183Earlier quoted context omitted.
Interestingly enough, of all the environmental hazards caused by large corporations, here's a rare example of one where this was primarily caused by a union, which while not opposed to the overall removal of lead, demanded the use of pipes which required specialized knowledge to install, which precluded non-brazed copper and plastic pipes used elsewhere in the nation, and effectively made lead pipes the only viable o…
As a former union leader I'd just like to say FUCK THOSE GUYS. Holy shit that is fucking infuriating. I did OHSA inspections to prevent shit like that from hurting our members AND THE COMMUNITY. I hope their leadership is burning in hell.
Re: Half of American kids have lead in their blood, doctors say
#184A lady named Tamara Rubin has spent years testing household products and other commonly handled objects for lead. She uses an XRF tester, which is the gold standard for high accuracy lead testing. She has thousands of items listed, from dishes to door hardware to childrens toys, and a lot of these will put a family at high risk of lead poisoning. There's some woo-y stuff on her website, but her XRF data is a gold min…
Re: Half of American kids have lead in their blood, doctors say
#185My wife and I are particularly concerned about lead, especially since there is no way to really cure lead poisoning. Any house built before the 1980s could have lead in it, with varying degrees of concern for children. Around the home here is what we found are sources of lead to worry about (or not): - Paint: lead was banned in paint in 1979, but lead was used less and less even before the cutoff date. Paint is espec…
Sources outside the home include avgas which is the largest source for lead in the atmosphere https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/leaded-gas-wa...
In the atmosphere, sure (as it is not naturally occurring in the air). But how large is this source? And what harm does it actually cause?
There are indications that the levels of lead around airports are very low - even the article linked said that ~2.5% of children around the airport had "detectable" levels of lead. But it doesn't provide enough data to tell if the contamination came from the air. If this was significant, wouldn't many more children around the airport have high (not only detectable) levels of lead? Everyone has to breathe, but not everyone has the same contamination sources.
From Wikipedia:
> Final results from EPA's lead modeling study at the Santa Monica Airport shows off-airport levels below current 150 ng/m3 and possible future 20 ng/m3 levels.[108] Fifteen of 17 airports monitored during a year-long study in the US by the EPA have lead emissions well below the current National Ambient Air Quality Standard (NAAQS) for lead.[109]
To be safe, obviously we want to reduce all exposure to zero.
Avgas was changed in formulation to reduce lead.
There are alternatives to avgas - in Europe, avgas is already hard to find. Automotive gasoline conversions are available for some widely used engines. The problem is that you can't just take it to a shop and covert it - the airplane was originally certified with one engine type. If it is changed, it is no longer certified. No company is willing to eat the costs to re-certify - for the planes that are still in production. Let alone planes made by companies that no longer exist.
In the 'experimental' category, there are many types of engines that can directly burn either avgas or "mogas".
Some manufacturers, like Diamond, can use "jet fuel" (essentially, diesel) in their piston engines (as they have their own engines, based on diesel car engines). But even they will have avgas-burning versions (with Lycoming engines) for the US market.
Then you have competing agencies dragging their feet. There's the EPA, which should be issuing regulations. Then there's the FAA that needs to come up with a solution with the certification issue - they are pretty underfunded so it's unlikely they will. One agency points the finger to the other, none take action. I'm probably missing other agencies. There are alternatives in development - without a full government push, progress is slow.
Meanwhile, planes (and many helicopters) in the US keep spewing lead. Many of which provide important services.
Re: Half of American kids have lead in their blood, doctors say
#186My wife and I are particularly concerned about lead, especially since there is no way to really cure lead poisoning. Any house built before the 1980s could have lead in it, with varying degrees of concern for children. Around the home here is what we found are sources of lead to worry about (or not): - Paint: lead was banned in paint in 1979, but lead was used less and less even before the cutoff date. Paint is espec…
For plumbing, they switched to "lead-free" pipes, which is rather misleading as "lead-free" means up to 8% lead. It wasn't until 2011 that they redefined "lead-free" as being no more than 0.25% lead. https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2020/09/01/2020-16...
"We got Acme's new Lead-free plumbing!"
"Lead-free plumbing? As in no lead?"
"Well 8 percent... rather a lot really..."
Re: Half of American kids have lead in their blood, doctors say
#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unions are simply businesses that make labor available to companies. Any notion that they are something different from a business is mistaken. Attempts by unions to use government to make themselves legal monopolies are just as bad as any other business using government to do that.
Let me know the next time I can vote to have my CEO replaced, thanks :)
Re: Half of American kids have lead in their blood, doctors say
#188How about Chicago: > The biggest reason is that essentially Chicago and other cities around Illinois required the use of lead service lines all the way until 1986, long after it was recognized that lead was poisonous and other cities had stopped using it. A decade after other cities had stopped using it Chicago and other cities in Illinois were not only using it but requiring the use of lead long after everybody else…
Not only that, but it's really difficult to get the service line replaced even if you're willing to pay for it. We went through the exercise a few years ago. It can be difficult to find a plumbing service willing to do this kind of work because not only do they need a special certification (makes sense) but the company has to put up something like a $5000 bond on their work with the city. On top of that replacing the…
This was my first thought as well, then I remembered Chicago.
Re: Half of American kids have lead in their blood, doctors say
#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's incredible. What sort of levels do you have to put up with? Is there any kind of monitor you can install to detect a spike?
The OP mentioned that this was a few years ago. Things are different now. Literally one month ago Illinois became the second state to legally require all lead pipes to be replaced [1]. I do believe that the Chicago city ordinance of last year waives all permitting fees now. I am not sure how it is going to be paid for: public money? homeowner pays? [1] https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=3739&...
I'd suggest that the Union that voted to keep the lead as a requirement pay. /evilgrin
Re: Half of American kids have lead in their blood, doctors say
#190Earlier quoted context omitted.
All high-temperature wire insulation contains lead. But are these significant sources of available environmental lead?
No, a lot of PVC wire insulation contains no lead. For example, all wire meant to be sold in the EU must be ROHS complaint, and thus contain no lead. Many US manufacturers are also compliant, and the number is growing. Many manufacturers state this explicitly on their websites (e.g. Tripp Lite and Southwire, to take two random examples). Many others can be identified by either an RoHS designation or lack of CA Prop 6…
Just an aside, this is a personal gripe. I grew up on lead solder, making Heathkit projects with my dad.
I tried re-engaging with the electronics hobby as an adult, decades later, in a world filled with ROHS solder, and I have to say it is a huge pain in the ass to work with. Adhesion, balling issues, etc, regardless of core type, flux, etc, even on nice controlled-temp Hakko stations, versus the Weller crap irons of my youth.
Maybe I'm just a grumpy old man, or maybe my memories are covered with rose glasses. But electronics seemed be more enjoyable in the lead era. And to my knowledge, my IQ did not suffer.