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Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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So swap to chrome for those 1-2 websites that require it and use Firefox for everything else?

"Don't use the product" is ALWAYS a poor rebuttal. Few people like having to utilise multiple browsers.

In practice I've found that people claiming site X works in chrome but not in Firefox is usually incorrect, and unless you actually try it you won't know. I use Firefox and have done for 15+ years, and I genuinely can't remember the last time I had to switch browser to use a page or webapp.

Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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In Chrome and Safari, Google search injects analytics via the ping attribute on tags. This sends some additional ping-to and ping-from headers. So Google is still collecting data from who use its search, provided they are not on Firefox. I would assume it does the same for its other products, such as Google Analytics, but I haven't checked.

The "ping" attribute is available to all sites and many content blocking extensions (including ad blockers) block these pings. This isn't changing with Manifest V3: extensions will still be able to block them. Note that on Firefox and other browsers that do not support "ping", Google Search still tracks which links you click on, but it uses URL rewriting. There are also extensions that block this.

Thanks for the correction.

If I were Chrome, I would proxy these requests securely through an innocent-looking API. I hope no one is getting any ideas.

It's probably moot anyway. We all know the direction Google/Chrome is going in. Not much we can do at this point.

Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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I don't understand why this (and all the rest) is not driving people back to Firefox. Are we really going to wait for Mozilla to die, and then lament that Google has taken over the web?

It did for me. I went back to firefox a year ago.

I wish I could use Firefox full-time, but for some reason Zoom's web client supports Gallery view only on Chrome/Edge.

Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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Brave is just crypto adware, they even went so far as to automatically append crypto exchange referral codes to urls [0] Funded by Palantir Technologies by the way [1] Their ad rewards system analyses and modifies the original webcontent, replacing existing ads with their own (and who knows what other code they inject) [2] Then there's their hidden tracker URL whitelist [3] No thanks. [0] https://twitter.com/cryptona…

> replacing existing ads with their own (and who knows what other code they inject) This is completely wrong. Brave ads are shown in OS notifications.

They have most definitely done this, I have seen it myself on Android. I'll see if I can find some more sources on this later.

Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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8 years ago, Firefox 25 was released. I don't know your needs but a lot as changed underneath. Notably, Firefox is now using multiple processes, the Javascript engine is probably a lot faster, the web engine too. I don't like every change, especially the latest revamp of the UI, but it is still the best browser for me. You could try, and them move if conclusive? If you consider switching anyway. Moving everything bef…

As I said, I was bitten twice. It's hard to even try now. Back then I try for a few week before committing, but when I move my session (of 200+ tabs) onto Firefox, it's dead. And back then I was told the exact same thing I was told this time, too.

If you do ever want to try to make the switch again, you might try the 'Auto Tab Discard' extension. It lets you customize how tab unloading works. I had 2755 tabs open without breaking a sweat (down to 1093, woo!). Starting the browser will only load the last active tab and, as you continue to work, your older tabs (depending on your setting) will start to get unloaded.

I want to say this is a feature of the browser itself, but the extension (add-on, whatever we call them now) gives you a lot more control.

As for session migration, maybe an extension like 'Tab Session Manager' will help? It supports several different formats, so surely one of those formats is something that Chrome can export. That would let you move everything in one fell swoop, at least.

Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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Mozilla's main source of revenue has always been the money Google gives them to have Google as the default search engine. They could stop this at any time to effectively kill Mozilla. So, why haven't they? Because there's this case called United States v. Microsoft Corporation that deals with this very issue of browser monopolies. Now usually a lawsuit wouldn't mean dick to Google because they already have a litany o…

I still don't know wtf is Pocket supposed to be doing.

Chrome syncs things like bookmarks and credit card numbers across browsers whenever a user logs into a Google property.

Pocket is Firefox trying not to fall behind on features.

And presumably from Mozilla's perspective, if it has some sponsored content giving them some non-Google income, so much the better.

Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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Fair criticism of Firefox is that it is dependent on Mozilla 'the org' which is a pretty shaky foundation to base such a critical component on. Witness the exodus of even die hard supporters over the last couple of years. That has nothing to do with minor UI details.

I’d prefer Firefox, but some functionality works inarguably better in chrome. One example is YouTube, which slams my processor due to the lack of hardware decoding.

What platform? No problem with Youtube and Twitch with Firefox on Windows 10.

Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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Chrome really needs to be divested from Google, even if it dies as a result. Pretty much the only two still-extant cross-platform browsers (Chromium and Firefox) are funded by ad company money. In a lot of ways, this is worse than the Microsoft/Internet Explorer situation.

Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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I have a stupid idea. But first, a bunch of questions: - Can you legally advertise a product you're not affiliated with? Is this OK by the ToS of major ad networks? - Is it possible to target ads by user's browser? I'm thinking, maybe we should crowdfund a public interest ad, targeted at people browsing from Chrome, with some attention-grabbing art or distracting colors, and a clear message: "Want to stop seeing this…

Make this happen and I am going to do my best to publicize this. On the other hand, chrome is making it increasingly tough to use any other browser by sheer intuitive and useful features. Grouping tabs for eg. I know other would do it one day. But there is a lag. I wonder why other browsers (OSS) do not straight up copy any good features and release. Assuming there is good enough dev resources. Or is it really that h…

>intuitive and useful features

???

Vivaldi is the king of features. Too bad it is so slow.

Firefox has extensions for all you need. Vertical tabs, tab groups etc

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