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Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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I’d prefer Firefox, but some functionality works inarguably better in chrome. One example is YouTube, which slams my processor due to the lack of hardware decoding.

The h264ify add-on will let your computer load YouTube videos more efficiently on Firefox, if it supports hardware acceleration for H.264 but not VP8/VP9. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/h264ify/

Thanks for tip, I've always wondered what was the root cause of those occasional stutters, specially since I often speed up videos

Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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What about first party domains

Behavior-based blocks take care of those largely. I think only Facebook is reliably staying ahead?

If you mean ublock origin cosmetic filters, yeah facebook is really putting up a fight. The status quo has been randomized css classes, identical html structure, interspersing hidden junk characters in between the "Sponsored" text, and the latest I've noticed, anchors that link to # until you hover over, preventing blocking href=^/ads. That and turning on or off or changing behavior between users and regions makes collaborating on rules really difficult.

Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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As someone who is intimately familiar with the Chrome extensions internals and is not employed by a big tech company, I believe most of the changes seem like a step in the right direction.* I've been working towards implementing greater support for Chrome extensions in Electron which has involved reading and interacting with Chromium code [0]. - Using service workers instead of a hidden background webpage is more idi…

You're right my browser is too slow! Webpages only load nearly instantly, I'm sure bringing back all the ads will make everything even better!

> Webpages only load nearly instantly

Which ones? HN does, but a large part of the other sites I frequent need around a second or more to load. With or without ad-blockers - some load faster with, some faster without, but they never enter the "nearly instantly" range, which (last I checked) was 0-250 ms.

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Mozilla's main source of revenue has always been the money Google gives them to have Google as the default search engine. They could stop this at any time to effectively kill Mozilla. So, why haven't they? Because there's this case called United States v. Microsoft Corporation that deals with this very issue of browser monopolies. Now usually a lawsuit wouldn't mean dick to Google because they already have a litany o…

I still don't know wtf is Pocket supposed to be doing.

Simply put it combines "article view" with pinterest style saving. Find an article online, save it to pocket, revisit it later and read it in an "article view".

Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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Haven't used Firefox in years, would need to check what's new. But I've been enjoying Brave. Built in blockers for ads and trackers, built in tor, and a very interesting rewards system to help content creators and honestly, so far I recommend it.

For the sake of fighting browser engines monoculture, I'd recommend you NOT using Brave, even for all the goodies and niceties in the world.

This is an important concern, but I'm afraid that this ship has sailed with Firefox.

Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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You're right my browser is too slow! Webpages only load nearly instantly, I'm sure bringing back all the ads will make everything even better!

> Webpages only load nearly instantly Which ones? HN does, but a large part of the other sites I frequent need around a second or more to load. With or without ad-blockers - some load faster with, some faster without, but they never enter the "nearly instantly" range, which (last I checked) was 0-250 ms.

What's an example of a site that loads slower with an ad blocker? I've never observed that in my browsing.

Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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Didn't Mozilla fire their devtools team ? FF devtools weren't up to Chrome as-is, and doesn't sound like they ever will be. FF seems like a sinking ship, not worth investing time in. TBH I'm perfectly happy with Chrome and using Google accounts. The benefits of my data following me around seamlessly far outweighs the downsides of Google having access to it.

Firefox also fired their security team.

This is false.

(I am a former Mozilla employee who was there when the layoffs happened)

This is what I know about what happened there:

There were two enterprise IT teams with similar duties but different purviews. When management was deciding on layoffs, they decided to unify those two teams. Unfortunately that meant that there were redundancies.

My heart goes out to those who lost their jobs, and they have every right to be upset.

But the inferences being made as a result of the resulting tweets just weren't true: this notion that all security teams were wiped out is false. And there are now others assigned to threat management.

Furthermore, the security teams that work on Gecko and Firefox were left mostly if not entirely intact.

The entire hardening/sandboxing team was still intact: https://twitter.com/gcpascutto/status/1293519587967983616

TL;DR: Don’t base your understanding of an organization’s capabilities off of one tweet.

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That’s not true re the Safari ad blocker ecosystem. We develop a Safari ad blocker [1] that works on iOS and macOS which provides performant and private ad blocking. Unlike previous ad blockers using other extension mechanisms, it also can’t see which web pages you visit. We recently released best in class YouTube ad blocking features too. The mechanisms for doing this is different, but the ad blocking results are as…

I use Safari for everything both in macOS and iOS, and would be tempted to try your product, but can’t find the price, making it a non-starter.

I don't use it, but it seems to be free, with an optional "pro" subscription for some extra features. The subscription pricing is only mentioned on the App Store page, and appears to be $3/month or $30/year.

Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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This is particularly amusing considering Google's extreme lack of v3 documentation. Their samples and examples Github, for example, has only 2 examples, iirc. They also introduce a lot of silliness like the inability to nest content scripts within folders.

Not to mention all the limitations of the Chrome browser. The continuous difference between console.log and console.dir. The former only shows you a very limited view of JS objects while the latter is what Firefox uses as the default for console.log - a full view of the object you want inspected. Then there's the inability to edit and resend network requests. The only workaround is to copy the request as a fetch request, dump it into the console or snippets, re-edit it there, and then send it through the console. Of course you'd have to parse the response in the console too instead of being able to see it in devtools.

And then there's Chrome's complete lack of proper proxy support. You could start the browser with command line flags in order to enable a SOCKS5 proxy, for example, but that requires you to close your existing browser session and open a new one.

Finally, how is it that we have nearly exact dates (2022-01-17 and sometime in January 2023) for V2 sunsetting but the dates for implementation of actual features needed to migrate away from V2 have no solid expectation date? Isn't that putting the cart before the horse? From the article:

"In the coming months, we'll also be launching support for dynamically configurable content scripts and an in-memory storage option, among other new capabilities."

"In the coming months"? The v2 sunset date is just a few months away! Why not ensure that the current feature set is fully functional and adequate to replace v2 before blocking v2 extension submissions?

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