Doesn't chip making a lot of water, most of it in Arizona is fed by Lake Mead? The same reservoir that is at 30% capacity, with acute water shortages and with 4 years of increased precipitation necessary for an adequate refill. We are adding a chip making facility which needs a lot of water here? This sounds like a recipe for disaster whenever there is a period of water stress which appears to be occurring in that re…
Intel breaks ground on $20B Arizona plants as U.S. chip factory race heats up
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Re: Intel breaks ground on $20B Arizona plants as U.S. chip factory race heats up
#12Doesn't chip making a lot of water, most of it in Arizona is fed by Lake Mead? The same reservoir that is at 30% capacity, with acute water shortages and with 4 years of increased precipitation necessary for an adequate refill. We are adding a chip making facility which needs a lot of water here? This sounds like a recipe for disaster whenever there is a period of water stress which appears to be occurring in that re…
Can they create a water pipeline from elsewhere? Crazy, but not that far out. Oil and gas is transported this way.
Re: Intel breaks ground on $20B Arizona plants as U.S. chip factory race heats up
#13Doesn't chip making a lot of water, most of it in Arizona is fed by Lake Mead? The same reservoir that is at 30% capacity, with acute water shortages and with 4 years of increased precipitation necessary for an adequate refill. We are adding a chip making facility which needs a lot of water here? This sounds like a recipe for disaster whenever there is a period of water stress which appears to be occurring in that re…
Re: Intel breaks ground on $20B Arizona plants as U.S. chip factory race heats up
#14Re: Intel breaks ground on $20B Arizona plants as U.S. chip factory race heats up
#15Forgive my ignorance, but wouldn't you want to build a semiconductor fabrication factory somewhere cold? Or is it because Arizona is dry? (honest questions, I don't know what impacts the location of a fab)
Arizona is a place where, with enough investment (like the billions here) power can be extremely green and cheap, with solar. Needing a huge amount of air conditioning is not a problem when it coincides with the moment the sun is pouring huge amounts of energy into your solar array.
Re: Intel breaks ground on $20B Arizona plants as U.S. chip factory race heats up
#16Forgive my ignorance, but wouldn't you want to build a semiconductor fabrication factory somewhere cold? Or is it because Arizona is dry? (honest questions, I don't know what impacts the location of a fab)
Re: Intel breaks ground on $20B Arizona plants as U.S. chip factory race heats up
#17Doesn't chip making a lot of water, most of it in Arizona is fed by Lake Mead? The same reservoir that is at 30% capacity, with acute water shortages and with 4 years of increased precipitation necessary for an adequate refill. We are adding a chip making facility which needs a lot of water here? This sounds like a recipe for disaster whenever there is a period of water stress which appears to be occurring in that re…
Can they create a water pipeline from elsewhere? Crazy, but not that far out. Oil and gas is transported this way.
1. They are leaky so you end up paying more for the same amount of water
2. Wherever you are buying the water from (the source of the pipeline) knows their water is valuable and can charge more
Re: Intel breaks ground on $20B Arizona plants as U.S. chip factory race heats up
#18Can't we make washing machines, cars, bikes, fridges, dish washers, coffee machines,... without IC's ? My Core2 Duo is 12 years old and I still use it 8 hours a day, do I really need a new generation CPU ?
I understand that global economy (and thus employment and other important stuff) rely on the trade of IC's but do we really need so much more ?
(kiddo's have been waiting their PS5 for 9 months now, but is that a insurmountable problem?)
Not to say that IC's are bad (I'm CS :-)) but just asking if the current IC shortage may be a good time to think about the sustainability of our appetite, or if it's the good time to think about living in a world with actual limits...
Re: Intel breaks ground on $20B Arizona plants as U.S. chip factory race heats up
#19Forgive my ignorance, but wouldn't you want to build a semiconductor fabrication factory somewhere cold? Or is it because Arizona is dry? (honest questions, I don't know what impacts the location of a fab)
Re: Intel breaks ground on $20B Arizona plants as U.S. chip factory race heats up
#20Doesn't chip making a lot of water, most of it in Arizona is fed by Lake Mead? The same reservoir that is at 30% capacity, with acute water shortages and with 4 years of increased precipitation necessary for an adequate refill. We are adding a chip making facility which needs a lot of water here? This sounds like a recipe for disaster whenever there is a period of water stress which appears to be occurring in that re…
I would not be surprised if even using tanker caravans to bring water from Utah is an option for chip production.