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Pumps run dry at gas stations in Britain
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Re: Pumps run dry at gas stations in Britain
#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's quite a claim. Do you have some strong evidence to back it up? The electoral commission went to great lengths and expense to find any wrong doing and came up with nothing. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20... Edit: Rant alert: It really irks me that the people who call the Brexit election unfair, don't seem to acknowledge that Britain was never given any kind of referendum when joini…
The UK joined in '73. After the terms were finalised there was a referendum in '75 where the public agreed to stay in. "Never given any kind of referendum" is far fetched.
One thing I’ve noticed a lot of in the last five years, has been that the thing being objected to by a Leave supporter can vary from the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances[0] to the Lisbon treaty.
When it’s half the country each way, you’re going to get a lot of people with very different ideas on what they voted for even at the best of times; with two different competing leave campaigns and shockingly inept government communications on the topic, it’s even worse.
[0] I’ve tried to engage with someone who blamed “the EU” for Russia annexing the Ukraine.
Re: Pumps run dry at gas stations in Britain
#163Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just an observation. Ever since the announcement it seems like various groups on Reddit and elsewhere want to celebrate every difficulty that the UK experiences.
I think it's UK remainers pointing out the difficulties. Which is somewhat understandable considering: - Their political opponents have spent months dismissing their concerns as scaremongering. - Many would still like us to rejoin the EU at some point. So it makes sense to point out the advantages of doing so.
> Their political opponents have spent months dismissing their concerns as scaremongering.
Years, not months. Pretty much all concerns about Brexit were dismissed as being Project Fear.
Re: Pumps run dry at gas stations in Britain
#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or just treat them as they do any other non-EU country? The special deals and preferential treatment come with being in the EU. When you leave, they stop. Fair’s fair.
Not sure. "A fifth of all EU border checks are now happening in Northern Ireland, the government has said." https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/brexit/unsustainable... There is a distinct possibility that the EU is being vindictive
Or there is the distinct possibility that this was a heavily-traversed border pre-Brexit and with Brexit it now requires a lot of border checks.
Re: Pumps run dry at gas stations in Britain
#165Earlier quoted context omitted.
The UK joined in '73. After the terms were finalised there was a referendum in '75 where the public agreed to stay in. "Never given any kind of referendum" is far fetched.
"After the entry into force of the Treaty of Lisbon in 2009 the pillar structure ceased to exist. The European Community, together with its legal personality, was absorbed into the newly consolidated European Union which merged in the other two pillars (however Euratom remained distinct). This was originally proposed under the European Constitution but that treaty failed ratification in 2005." https://en.wikipedia.or…
>So no, the UK joined the EU in 2009.
The "European Union" as an entity came into existence at the time of the Maastricht Treaty (aka Treaty on European Union), and the UK was a signatory to that treaty. That was in 1992.
Could you explain why you think 2009 is the relevant date?
Re: Pumps run dry at gas stations in Britain
#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apparently, petrol (gas for Americans) is plentiful at the refineries, but there aren't truck drivers who can drive it to the petrol station. For some weeks now, supermarkets have been somewhat sparsely stacked (no shortage of food in general, but definitely limited ranges etc.). There is no direct link to the spikes in energy prices.
It should be noted that the photographs that the news outlets use in the articles about supermarket shortages are mostly from last year. It's deceptive.
Still, there are shortages. For example, my local supermarket has for a month or so had signs explaining that "Supply difficulties" may mean some items aren't in stock, e.g. most of the Italian ready meals section (I like Italian and I'm lazy) is replaced by an incongruous display of Italian wine, even though the wine section is actually on the far side of the store.
They are clearly struggling. And even if Brexit is only 10% of the problem, they run into the fact that it's key to central government policy to portray Brexit as successful, and so you mustn't mention that element.
Re: Pumps run dry at gas stations in Britain
#167Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apparently, petrol (gas for Americans) is plentiful at the refineries, but there aren't truck drivers who can drive it to the petrol station. For some weeks now, supermarkets have been somewhat sparsely stacked (no shortage of food in general, but definitely limited ranges etc.). There is no direct link to the spikes in energy prices.
It should be noted that the photographs that the news outlets use in the articles about supermarket shortages are mostly from last year. It's deceptive.
True.
That said, my local large Tesco had a small few aisles completely empty - yoghurts I think, and some fruit and veg.
Clearly not an apocalyptic situation, and much better than the Great Toilet Tissue Shortage, but unsettling nonetheless.
Re: Pumps run dry at gas stations in Britain
#168Earlier quoted context omitted.
If this is true, this should only inconvenience people for a week or two. Unlike toilet paper, average citizens don't really have a way to store 100x more than their normal weekly consumption of petrol. So if there are no supply issues and only some distribution challenges, demand will slump off once everyone has had a chance to fill their tank and the 1-2 jerrycans they may have lying around.
Panic buy Jerry-cans!
You're joking but I read this on the news today:
"Halfords recorded a seventeenfold rise in the number of jerry cans sold over the weekend compared with the same period a week earlier."
Also if you check Amazon UK, most jerry cans now have limited stock and longer delivery times
Re: Pumps run dry at gas stations in Britain
#169Earlier quoted context omitted.
The official line is that there is a lack of truck drivers, which is mostly true because Brexit has prevented a lot of the foreign drivers from working
Brexit may be a (small) part of it, but it certainly isn't the whole picture. Btw much of Europe faces a shortage of drivers as well. There are a number of factors at play including delayed testing because of covid, relatively low wages, and perhaps drivers shifting to more local deliveries e.g. supermarkets post covid due to changing demand. I was speaking to a taxi driver who said the taxi industry was being decima…
The rest of Europe has mostly projected driver shortages, and no acute shortages of drivers, let alone goods.
So yes, while there is a wider issue, the wider issue is not the current problem or the high-order bit.
Note also that UGKOV plans to address the driver shortage by offering to ease restrictions on non UK-based (i.e. EU) drivers.
So yes, this is totally due to Brexit.
Re: Pumps run dry at gas stations in Britain
#170Not suggesting that there are not other factors (Brexit, Covid etc) but the media have to shoulder the "panic" element of this. E.g. stop publishing photos of queueing cars and cordoned off pumps and report purely on the statistics of the matter. Too many media outlets are entirely hell bent on getting clicks without a care for the furore they induce in the general public as a result. Social media does of course ampl…
It's not unlike the panic buying at the start of the pandemic. The media is driving this hysteria because a) it fits their narrative around brexit, and b) fear & outrage sells.
> it fits their narrative around brexit
What narrative around Brexit? I see a lack of narrative around Brexit. We are always told about “supply chain issues” with barely any reflection on the cause.
Yes, other nations in Europe have supply chain issues, but they’re not seeing the problems we’re seeing in the uk.
This is a Brexit issue, but no major media outfit seems to be holding the government (who are the architects of the exit and the deal) accountable. Especially the serial liar at the top.