Anonymous Pledges to Take Down Facebook • Hacker News Board

Re: Anonymous Pledges to Take Down Facebook

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Post by noodle » Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 4:13 AM UTC

Cushman wrote: post #37

srl wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This attack is scheduled to come soon after anon switches from LOIC to a "new cannon" dubbed #RefRef ( http://anonops.blogspot.com/2011/08/new-hacking-tools-by-ano... ). They're probably way overconfident in their abilities (#RefRef's description is thoroughly unconvincing), but at least they don't think they're going to DDoS one of the best-prepared sites in the world, AFTER telling them exactly what day the attack…

So if we assume these people have any idea what they're talking about, it's some kind of SQLi attack... presumably mySQL? I wonder at what point it'll occur to them that Facebook mostly serves data from memcached. Uh... did I get something wrong here? A correction or something would be nice.

i think you're getting downvoted because anonymous has proven many times in the past that at least the people "in charge" (as much as you can call it that) definitely know what they're talking about and are possibly comprised of security experts.

if this is in fact anonymous. i'm not convinced, too big a target for them to have so little fanfare/flair.

Re: Anonymous Pledges to Take Down Facebook

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Post by vamsii » Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 4:13 AM UTC

so they like g+ ?

Re: Anonymous Pledges to Take Down Facebook

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Post by krashidov » Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 4:18 AM UTC

Going after Facebook goes against a lot of Anon's principles. Sure they do have a pretty bad rep in the privacy department but Facebook was an invaluable tool for young people during the Arab Spring

Re: Anonymous Pledges to Take Down Facebook

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Post by joeguilmette » Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 4:20 AM UTC

brianleb wrote: post #35

I really don't buy this as a... 'full force,' if you will, attack by Anonymous. I would want to see this confirmed by sources like https://twitter.com/#!/anonymousirc before I believed it to really be an 'Anonymous' 'movement.' Of course, their strength is also their weakness. Without any names, what is and is not 'Anonymous' can forever be questioned. Like others, I want to say "they are too smart for this," but the…

If you you're Anonymous, you're Anonymous

Re: Anonymous Pledges to Take Down Facebook

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Post by xtal » Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 4:30 AM UTC

inconditus wrote: post #26

palish wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like I said, this is not Anon. Think about it. Anon aren't stupid. And going up against Facebook is stupid.

There is no better example of the No True Scotsman Fallacy.

No, that doesn't apply here at all. There's no (public) definition of who is or isn't Anonymous.

Re: Anonymous Pledges to Take Down Facebook

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Post by sjs » Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 4:31 AM UTC

palish wrote: post #12

Am I the only one who thinks this sounds completely out of character for LulzSec / Anonymous? They aren't stupid. They surely know that waging war against Facebook would be silly. I'd bet this is someone completely different, looking to pose as Anonymous. Try looking at the sources --- you won't be able to trace it back to an announcement by Anonymous. So who are these guys?

"Uh, who do we hate besides the government? They can, you know, arrest us and stuff." ... "Facebook! Yeah, let's get fucking Facebook! I hate Zuckerberg, all young and successful."

Sounds about right to me. Seemingly random target fits their MO.

Re: Anonymous Pledges to Take Down Facebook

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Post by rpearl » Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 4:34 AM UTC

johnrob wrote: post #36

potatolicious wrote: post #9

Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. [breathe in] Haha. Hah. Hahahahaha. Best of luck, Anon! I'm not sure if Anon fully understands the level of infrastructure and the level of preparation Facebook has... They'll need to come up with something a lot more compelling than a bunch of guys at home with LOIC.

Taking something apart is vastly easier than putting it together. Just because Anon is small doesn't mean they can't find an exploit.

they just haven't even done anything novel. Why should we expect them to now? Facebook is very unlikely to have the usual slough of easy sql injections.

I am quite sure that someone good could find attacks against facebook. I am dubious that anonymous can.

Re: Anonymous Pledges to Take Down Facebook

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Post by cl8ton » Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 4:39 AM UTC

While reading my fav blogs in the AM, anytime someone mentions Lulz/Anom the f’n comments stop abruptly!

So there is much FUD involved here.

After seeing what they did over the summer,if I were FB...I would take a very guarded position over this latest claim.

Re: Anonymous Pledges to Take Down Facebook

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Post by megablast » Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 4:46 AM UTC

rdl wrote: post #4

So somehow cutting people off from playing Farmville, talking to friends and family, and generally wasting time is going to endear a small group of "hacktivists" to those users? Perhaps as effective as cutting those users off from playing PS3 games they'd already purchased.

You don't really understand protests do you? You could say the same about street protestors, endearing themselves to motorists trying to get home, or bus driver protestors causing chaos to those who use their services.

Re: Anonymous Pledges to Take Down Facebook

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Post by gareim » Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 5:38 AM UTC

From #AnonOps: "TO PRESS: MEDIAS OF THE WORLD... STOP LYING! #OpFacebook is just ANOTHER FAKE! WE DONT "KILL" THE MESSENGER. THAT'S NOT OUR STYLE #Anonymous"

That's not to say that Facebook won't be attacked, but most likely not by the people that form that Anonymous that WE think of when we think Anonymous. Although I suppose that any one or group could be Anonymous because of how they define themselves.