Anonymous Pledges to Take Down Facebook • Hacker News Board

Re: Anonymous Pledges to Take Down Facebook

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Post by rorrr » Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 3:26 AM UTC

Permit wrote: post #19

gasull wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So did VISA and MasterCard ...

The traffic Facebook pulls is orders of magnitude greater than Visa and Mastercard's websites have ever had to deal with. Hell, according to Alexa, Hypem gets more traffic than Visa. http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/visa.com http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/hypem.com

Alexa doesn't count the internal traffic, like financial transactions. Their website is a tiny tiny share of that traffic. Just think of all the credit card transactions happening all over the world.

Re: Anonymous Pledges to Take Down Facebook

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Post by rorrr » Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 3:27 AM UTC

edwardy20 wrote: post #8

Will a DDOS attack affect a website that gets billions of pageviews per month anyways?

It really depends how they attack. They might have found some URLs that require a lot more resources (CPU or I/O) than your normal user behavior.

Re: Anonymous Pledges to Take Down Facebook

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Post by srl » Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 3:28 AM UTC

gasull wrote: post #14

Zagafa wrote: post #3

This group calls itself anonymous as well, and uses the same 'branding', but it is useful to note that the people behind this may have no affiliation with the previous anonymous operations. The 'original anonymous press release' was Uploaded to youtube by FacebookOp on Jul 16, 2011, and picked up by media only recently. None of the usual anonymous twitter accounts ( http://twitter.com/anonymousirc http://twitter.com/…

Have any of the "official" (whatever it means) Twitter accounts said anything against FacebookOp? I'm wondering if this is an spinoff from Anonymous, a false flag, or even both things at the same time (possible).

Have any of the "official" (whatever it means) Twitter accounts said anything against FacebookOp?

No. FacebookOp has gone entirely unmentioned by #AnonOps. Not because #AnonOps is unable to post - both Twitter and the blogspot account have posted multiple times about the London mess today.

Re: Anonymous Pledges to Take Down Facebook

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Post by natesm » Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 3:30 AM UTC

palish wrote: post #16

potatolicious wrote: post #9

Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. [breathe in] Haha. Hah. Hahahahaha. Best of luck, Anon! I'm not sure if Anon fully understands the level of infrastructure and the level of preparation Facebook has... They'll need to come up with something a lot more compelling than a bunch of guys at home with LOIC.

Like I said, this is not Anon. Think about it. Anon aren't stupid. And going up against Facebook is stupid.

Isn't "Anonymous" anyone who claims to be it?

Re: Anonymous Pledges to Take Down Facebook

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Post by brianleb » Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 3:30 AM UTC

I really don't buy this as a... 'full force,' if you will, attack by Anonymous. I would want to see this confirmed by sources like https://twitter.com/#!/anonymousirc before I believed it to really be an 'Anonymous' 'movement.'

Of course, their strength is also their weakness. Without any names, what is and is not 'Anonymous' can forever be questioned. Like others, I want to say "they are too smart for this," but then they ('they') also attacked Amazon a few months back and that certainly did not go as well as the Visa attacks...

Re: Anonymous Pledges to Take Down Facebook

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Post by johnrob » Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 3:33 AM UTC

potatolicious wrote: post #9

Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. [breathe in] Haha. Hah. Hahahahaha. Best of luck, Anon! I'm not sure if Anon fully understands the level of infrastructure and the level of preparation Facebook has... They'll need to come up with something a lot more compelling than a bunch of guys at home with LOIC.

Taking something apart is vastly easier than putting it together. Just because Anon is small doesn't mean they can't find an exploit.

Re: Anonymous Pledges to Take Down Facebook

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Post by Cushman » Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 3:35 AM UTC

srl wrote: post #21

potatolicious wrote: post #9

Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. [breathe in] Haha. Hah. Hahahahaha. Best of luck, Anon! I'm not sure if Anon fully understands the level of infrastructure and the level of preparation Facebook has... They'll need to come up with something a lot more compelling than a bunch of guys at home with LOIC.

This attack is scheduled to come soon after anon switches from LOIC to a "new cannon" dubbed #RefRef ( http://anonops.blogspot.com/2011/08/new-hacking-tools-by-ano... ). They're probably way overconfident in their abilities (#RefRef's description is thoroughly unconvincing), but at least they don't think they're going to DDoS one of the best-prepared sites in the world, AFTER telling them exactly what day the attack…

So if we assume these people have any idea what they're talking about, it's some kind of SQLi attack... presumably mySQL? I wonder at what point it'll occur to them that Facebook mostly serves data from memcached.

Uh... did I get something wrong here? A correction or something would be nice.

Re: Anonymous Pledges to Take Down Facebook

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Post by prostoalex » Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 3:54 AM UTC

rorrr wrote: post #31

Permit wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The traffic Facebook pulls is orders of magnitude greater than Visa and Mastercard's websites have ever had to deal with. Hell, according to Alexa, Hypem gets more traffic than Visa. http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/visa.com http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/hypem.com

Alexa doesn't count the internal traffic, like financial transactions. Their website is a tiny tiny share of that traffic. Just think of all the credit card transactions happening all over the world.

And yet it's the web site, not the transactional infrastructure, that was selected for the attack http://www.infoworld.com/d/security-central/anonymous-takes-...

Re: Anonymous Pledges to Take Down Facebook

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Post by JDulin » Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 4:09 AM UTC

I would hope the real Anon understands the magnitude the challenge they just set before themselves.

"Facebook has been selling information to government agencies and giving clandestine access to information security firms so that they can spy on people from all around the world. Some of these so-called whitehat infosec firms are working for authoritarian governments, such as those of Egypt and Syria."

^ Besides, if Anonymous wanted to disgrace facebook, I think a better way to do that would be to show evidence backing up this claim.

Re: Anonymous Pledges to Take Down Facebook

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Post by tel » Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 4:10 AM UTC

palish wrote: post #12

Am I the only one who thinks this sounds completely out of character for LulzSec / Anonymous? They aren't stupid. They surely know that waging war against Facebook would be silly. I'd bet this is someone completely different, looking to pose as Anonymous. Try looking at the sources --- you won't be able to trace it back to an announcement by Anonymous. So who are these guys?

This is the same fallacy that news and government organizations are making: Anonymous isn't constrained to be any particular group of people.