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New Myanmar’s junta has cut off internet/mobile in 22 townships

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Re: New Myanmar’s junta has cut off internet/mobile in 22 townships

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> In the entire history of mankind, has there ever been a case where the good guys "Good guys"? What does this mean?

if you're not sure it means you should carefully consider your ethics.

If you're so sure, then you should be able to provide recent examples and justification for their actions.

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Tangentially, what's up with what we call that country in English? "Myanmar" is the standard modern name and "Burma" is the name from the British colonial times. However, we have to realize that the R in "Myanmar" reflects British phonetics and should therefore be silent . No, NPR correspondent, it's not "My Ann Mar," it's more like "Maa Maa." Second, the renaming to "Myanmar" was approved by the ruling junta. Using…

How do you know all this? Super interesting. Do you know this level of detail about the names/languages of any other countries?

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Re: New Myanmar’s junta has cut off internet/mobile in 22 townships

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post #6

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I imagine by definition cutting access makes them not good guys? I can think of a few things I read on hn: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26023402 (India) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2879546 (San Francisco)

He probably meant guys who call themselves good. Like preaching their exceptionalism while killing and otherwise fucking up truckloads of "they hate our freedoms" people.

No, that's not at all what I meant.

Re: New Myanmar’s junta has cut off internet/mobile in 22 townships

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In the entire history of mankind, has there ever been a case where the good guys have tried to cut off civilians' ability to communicate?

being the "good guy" is subjective and history is written by the winners. plenty of parties in both sides of war have tried bombing or disrupting communication and logistic assets in order to win a war.

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Tangentially, what's up with what we call that country in English? "Myanmar" is the standard modern name and "Burma" is the name from the British colonial times. However, we have to realize that the R in "Myanmar" reflects British phonetics and should therefore be silent . No, NPR correspondent, it's not "My Ann Mar," it's more like "Maa Maa." Second, the renaming to "Myanmar" was approved by the ruling junta. Using…

How do you know all this? Super interesting. Do you know this level of detail about the names/languages of any other countries? /Subscribe.

I mean, this degree of knowledge barely rises above bar trivia. There are lots of people whose jobs or studies give them an interest in the affairs of some region or another. I'm sure you can find some wonk's blog just by searching for + "current events." Lots of international studies students write blogs.

Re: New Myanmar’s junta has cut off internet/mobile in 22 townships

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

if you're not sure it means you should carefully consider your ethics.

If you're so sure, then you should be able to provide recent examples and justification for their actions.

Everyone's ethics are their own. If you can't decide what is good and what is bad that's a personal failing. Relying on other people's sense of good and bad is also a failing. Thats why you need to consider your own ethics.

Re: New Myanmar’s junta has cut off internet/mobile in 22 townships

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're so sure, then you should be able to provide recent examples and justification for their actions.

Everyone's ethics are their own. If you can't decide what is good and what is bad that's a personal failing. Relying on other people's sense of good and bad is also a failing. Thats why you need to consider your own ethics.

All right. Let's take that as a given truth for now that ethics are not universal, and are instead individual. Using your own ethics, I'd ask that you provide some recent examples as well as justification for those actions.

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone's ethics are their own. If you can't decide what is good and what is bad that's a personal failing. Relying on other people's sense of good and bad is also a failing. Thats why you need to consider your own ethics.

All right. Let's take that as a given truth for now that ethics are not universal, and are instead individual. Using your own ethics, I'd ask that you provide some recent examples as well as justification for those actions.

please be specific in addressing what I said to you. You're asking for examples of something I never spoke about.

Re: New Myanmar’s junta has cut off internet/mobile in 22 townships

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In the entire history of mankind, has there ever been a case where the good guys have tried to cut off civilians' ability to communicate?

Obvious example during WW2 both sides did it. So unless we are all passing around the bong and both sides can not be the good guys, then yes the good guys (Either the Nazis or the Allies) did it. The good guys do it all the time.

A example where the good guys (Unless you support the genocide I guess) didn't do it -

https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/13457754/RwandaD...

As the genocide was taking place, the United States military drafted a plan to jam RTLM's broadcasts, but this action was never taken, with officials claiming that the cost of the operation, international broadcast agreements and "the American commitment to free speech" made the operation unfeasible

Facebook also didn't do it to stop the “the hallmarks of genocide,” in Myanmar

https://time.com/5197039/un-facebook-myanmar-rohingya-violen...

Re: New Myanmar’s junta has cut off internet/mobile in 22 townships

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In the entire history of mankind, has there ever been a case where the good guys have tried to cut off civilians' ability to communicate?

We're literally in the middle of a culture war in which some good guys are trying to censor some bad guys on social media. Not that I neccessarily agree or disagree with that labeling.
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