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New Myanmar’s junta has cut off internet/mobile in 22 townships

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Re: New Myanmar’s junta has cut off internet/mobile in 22 townships

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In the entire history of mankind, has there ever been a case where the good guys have tried to cut off civilians' ability to communicate?

> In the entire history of mankind, has there ever been a case where the good guys "Good guys"? What does this mean?

if you're not sure it means you should carefully consider your ethics.

Re: New Myanmar’s junta has cut off internet/mobile in 22 townships

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In the entire history of mankind, has there ever been a case where the good guys have tried to cut off civilians' ability to communicate?

Cutting off your enemy’s communications has always been important. Most authoritarian governments decide eventually that their biggest enemy, outside of wartime, is their own people

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mm, nope not like that at all.

No, it has many similarities.

From the article:

> Junta soldiers are also accused of engaging in the brutal murder of a local pastor and several gang rapes of women and children. The junta is also systematically abducting the relatives of people it is seeking to arrest, including children as young as 20 weeks old. As of July, the junta has murdered at least 75 children ranging in age from 14 months to 17 years.

Re: New Myanmar’s junta has cut off internet/mobile in 22 townships

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post #6

In the entire history of mankind, has there ever been a case where the good guys have tried to cut off civilians' ability to communicate?

I imagine by definition cutting access makes them not good guys? I can think of a few things I read on hn: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26023402 (India) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2879546 (San Francisco)

He probably meant guys who call themselves good. Like preaching their exceptionalism while killing and otherwise fucking up truckloads of "they hate our freedoms" people.

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Tangentially, what's up with what we call that country in English?

"Myanmar" is the standard modern name and "Burma" is the name from the British colonial times.

However, we have to realize that the R in "Myanmar" reflects British phonetics and should therefore be silent. No, NPR correspondent, it's not "My Ann Mar," it's more like "Maa Maa."

Second, the renaming to "Myanmar" was approved by the ruling junta. Using that spelling for the country's name is like calling Taiwan "Chinese Taipei." Is it ethical to give this name credibility?

Finally, "Burma" and "Myanmar" are actually the same place name, written in two different orthographies. The latter prefers an archaizing pronunciation that the junta favors.

So, why still "My Ann Mar, previously known as Burr Mah"?

Re: New Myanmar’s junta has cut off internet/mobile in 22 townships

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Tangentially, what's up with what we call that country in English? "Myanmar" is the standard modern name and "Burma" is the name from the British colonial times. However, we have to realize that the R in "Myanmar" reflects British phonetics and should therefore be silent . No, NPR correspondent, it's not "My Ann Mar," it's more like "Maa Maa." Second, the renaming to "Myanmar" was approved by the ruling junta. Using…

Colonialism, along with a great deal of inertial, mostly. There's a long long list of things that English pronounces "wrong".

Thank you for helping me update my pronunciation!

Re: New Myanmar’s junta has cut off internet/mobile in 22 townships

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post #9

In the entire history of mankind, has there ever been a case where the good guys have tried to cut off civilians' ability to communicate?

> In the entire history of mankind, has there ever been a case where the good guys "Good guys"? What does this mean?

In history, over the long term, it typically means "whoever won".

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it has many similarities.

From the article: > Junta soldiers are also accused of engaging in the brutal murder of a local pastor and several gang rapes of women and children. The junta is also systematically abducting the relatives of people it is seeking to arrest, including children as young as 20 weeks old. As of July, the junta has murdered at least 75 children ranging in age from 14 months to 17 years.

currently the australian police are only beating already defeated non violent protesters. Shooting them in the back with 'non lethal' ammunition. Beating people on the ground with the butts of their guns, or kneeing them from a run. Any of those things could already lead to deaths. The state intervened to make sure no one could livestream events, or cover them from the air, to protect their shock troopers from consequences of their actions for the state. Give them some time and no punishment and who knows where it will go, except that it will escalate.

It's not currently the same, but it has many similarities. Government out of control, state brutality against innocents. If none of the australian police are punished for their behaviour it will escalate because that is the nature of people.

There is a reason people fetishized liberty, but it seems many forgot.

Re: New Myanmar’s junta has cut off internet/mobile in 22 townships

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Tangentially, what's up with what we call that country in English? "Myanmar" is the standard modern name and "Burma" is the name from the British colonial times. However, we have to realize that the R in "Myanmar" reflects British phonetics and should therefore be silent . No, NPR correspondent, it's not "My Ann Mar," it's more like "Maa Maa." Second, the renaming to "Myanmar" was approved by the ruling junta. Using…

Colonialism, along with a great deal of inertial, mostly. There's a long long list of things that English pronounces "wrong". Thank you for helping me update my pronunciation!

Like Uyghur. I absolutely hate anglophone reporting in their plight because of how they butcher that name into oblivion.
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