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Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

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Re: Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

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post #73

In Psychology there is Stroop Effect. Remember the funny game when asked to name the color of the word it takes longer and is more prone to errors when the color of the ink does not match the name of the color? I guess this design can only happen because no regulator thought that a car manufacturer could be THAT dumb. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stroop_effect

You're right! This is a brilliant example of the Stroop Effect.

Re: Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

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post #8

Flashing the red brake light is a North American thing. Over in Europe you would have a dedicated amber light and I expect there is a different light than the Union Jack which would be reserved for combined rear and brake lights only. I’ve seen a mini with these lights recently here in Ireland and I’d expect the driver may find their car burnt out sooner rather than later.

> I’d expect the driver may find their car burnt out sooner rather than later

Forgive my ignorance, does anti-UK sentiment really run this deep in Ireland today or is this hyperbole?

Re: Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

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post #111

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Per miles driven the US has an average number of traffic deaths. The problem is that the country's infrastructure is designed so poorly that the number of miles driven per capita is laughably absurd.

Maybe the root cause is the laughably easy barrier of entry to have a license to drive a death missile? It's a multi faceted issue of course, but to me, getting better educated drivers on the road is by far the easiest problem to solve around driving.

I would say almost everyone knows not to text and drive, or run red lights or to speed. Yet these are all frequent occurrences. Even proposals to add speed or red light cameras (with strict rules to prevent municipal abuse) face heavy opposition. I don’t think education alone will fix traffic safety.

Re: Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

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post #240

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It's extremely distracting while driving, and if more cars adopt that, then everyone will be worse off. I wish they were illegal (and I wonder if they technically are, because flashing means that for a brief second the light is off while the pedal is being pressed, and I have to imagine the law is written that the brake light must be lit when the brake pedal is pressed).

Flashing red lights are generally illegal and reserved for emergency vehicles. Pulse skirts this by claiming it's not a flashing light, but a pulsing one. "Pulse is the only pulsing third brake light that meets regulatory requirements for use in all 50 states. Step on the brake pedal and Pulse goes to work pulsing, rather than flashing, the third brake light. What’s the difference? NHTSA regulations restrict flashing…

Hmm... thanks for looking that up. I'm not a lawyer, but I imagine the court has discretion to throw that explanation out of the window.

Re: Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

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post #240

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Flashing red lights are generally illegal and reserved for emergency vehicles. Pulse skirts this by claiming it's not a flashing light, but a pulsing one. "Pulse is the only pulsing third brake light that meets regulatory requirements for use in all 50 states. Step on the brake pedal and Pulse goes to work pulsing, rather than flashing, the third brake light. What’s the difference? NHTSA regulations restrict flashing…

Hmm... thanks for looking that up. I'm not a lawyer, but I imagine the court has discretion to throw that explanation out of the window.

IMO it would be better for NHTSA to create rulemaking that would regulate pulsing brake lights for use under heavy braking conditions similar to Europe. Effectively making it a safety feature instead of yet another annoying distraction on the road that this pulse system puts out.

Re: Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

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post #181

Mini’s statement only highlights the absurdity (emphasis mine): >With regard to the turn indicator light pattern, there should be no trouble at all for a driver to understand, when seeing the full rear of the car , which direction is being indicated So what about when you can only see half of the car? Like when it’s changing lanes or pulling out of a parking spot? You know, like those times when a signal is MOST usef…

The design is dumb but you’re really stretching. I don’t need to see the entire rear of the car to know which way the blinker is indicating. If I did then that would mean 99% of the cars on the road, which have no arrow at all, would suffer from this ambiguity.

Re: Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

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post #207

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That's my question though. If anyone at Mini sees their 2019 model sold N in the first 6 months, and their 2021 model sold N/2, does anyone at corporate ask the dealerships to explain? I hope someone would care. What if 90% of potential buyers jumped off when they saw the mileage numbers. Or after the test drive. Or when they heard how long delivery would take. You know, any process optimization whatsoever.

I'm sure they do, but as a car enthusiast, we're forever frustrated, because the number of people who care is simply miniscule. I always bought used cars and it's frustrating that, of course, the manufacturers/dealers only care about people buying new. But now, having bought a new car, I realize they STILL don't care about my opinion, because people who care about the car-like-appliances they buy are in such a minori…

Why are people in such a rush to get their cars? I understand if your old one broke down and you absolutely need one for a job ASAP, but if you can afford to buy a new car, surely you could afford to wait a bit to get exactly the car you want?
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