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Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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I stopped using my Microsoft Surface Pro because it had the same issues. It's a clusterfuck of bad design decisions at Microsoft, the most offensive one being that they prioritize the execution of their scheduled spyware upload (telemetry) over honoring the agreement with the user that a sleeping PC will remain asleep unless the user takes action. It'll even install updates at night and then make reboot sounds to wak…

The lack of respect for users is really shocking lately.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

#512

I stopped using my Microsoft Surface Pro because it had the same issues. It's a clusterfuck of bad design decisions at Microsoft, the most offensive one being that they prioritize the execution of their scheduled spyware upload (telemetry) over honoring the agreement with the user that a sleeping PC will remain asleep unless the user takes action. It'll even install updates at night and then make reboot sounds to wak…

I feel using Windows for anything other than gaming is just going to give you more headaches than just learning to use a unix based OS. Most applications are available on multiple platforms and alternatives exist for those few applications that are not available.

In my opinion, the only reason why Windows is so prevalent in the "enterprise" world is because Microsoft provides support contracts to make it easier to adopt. Problems with your windows laptop? Send it off to Microsoft or open a business priority ticket to have them work on it for you. No need to hire an internal IT team.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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post #478

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah, must be why I've never had any issues with my xps running Linux.

Yeah because if anything, Linux is definitely known for great power management on laptops

Are you possibly referring to something that isn't automatic detection of hardware features? I've been on Linux laptops for 13 years but almost always on something shipped by the vendor, and I've never had these problems of going to sleep or bad power management that I hear about from HN comments.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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post #478

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah because if anything, Linux is definitely known for great power management on laptops

I've been using linux on laptops for years and I have no idea what you are talking about.

The level of "idle vs suspend to RAM vs Deep Hibernate (suspend to disk)" is noted by "S" levels.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

#515
> All newer Dell laptops now use the Microsoft Modern Standby.

So let me guess: "modern" here is indicates a shitty new thing that doesn't work as well as the old thing.

...after further reading, yep:

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/dev...

> On occasion, the system stays in the active mode (with the screen off) for a longer interval of time. These longer active intervals occur for a variety of reasons, for example, processing incoming email or downloading critical Windows updates. Windows components that are allowed to leave the SoC in the active power state are called activators because they are registered with the power manager as capable of blocking the transition back to the idle power mode. The durations of these activities vary widely but are controlled to extend battery life. The durations of the activities can be viewed with the built-in SleepStudy software tool or through Event Tracing for Windows (ETW)-based instrumentation.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

#516

I stopped using my Microsoft Surface Pro because it had the same issues. It's a clusterfuck of bad design decisions at Microsoft, the most offensive one being that they prioritize the execution of their scheduled spyware upload (telemetry) over honoring the agreement with the user that a sleeping PC will remain asleep unless the user takes action. It'll even install updates at night and then make reboot sounds to wak…

This is the literal reason I switched to OSX. I dislike the impractical design of Macbooks - horrible connectivity and no way to swap batteries. However the combination of 15 hrs battery life + closing the lid and it not melting a hole in my bag trumps any negatives.

Be careful. My Macbook Pro cooked it's display twice. Some program made it not go to sleep when I closed the lid, I put it in my backpack, and it overheated the display so much that I had yellow-brownish spots (which followed gravity over time). No way to check if it's sleeping when the lid is closed, because reasons...

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

#517
post #476

My 2017 MBP that was fully spec’d out is both the most expensive and worst laptop I’ve ever owned. -Rarely ever goes to sleep -It’s the same model Facebook returned a few thousand of because it randomly voltage surges the USB-C ports and fries stuff plugged into it. Apple refuses to acknowledge this, even though a bad voltage surge blew out the left speaker. -Keyboards been replaced four times -NVRAM needs to be rese…

I'm missing the relevance here? Are you just trying to point out that MacBooks are also imperfect?

I had a 2017 as well. And before that a 2013. And since then a 2019 16-inch and a 2020 M1. Yes, the 2017 sucked balls in ways that I can't even begin to count. The 2013 was f*cking flawless. I've similarly had almost zero problems with the 2019 16-inch MBP or my 2020 M1. There's just something especially crappy about the 2017s, and I doubt you'd find many people who'd seriously disagree about that.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

#520
This is not good. In the before-times, closing the lid, throwing my laptop in my bag, and commuting happened twice daily. I suppose that I'm extra glad I chose a Mac with my current employer - even if I don't commute daily anymore.
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