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It was pleasant to find when I’d left work to the airport after unplugging it and stuffing it my bag, that the closed computer was burning up and at critical battery.
Now MS/dell Claims that’s a feature not a bug and that they’ve expanded the situations where that occurs. What are they smoking? Oh yeah burning laptop fumes
Have we really evolved to the state that laptop portability is an extra feature and not part of the design criteria for the modern laptop? That the sleep capability of laptops, present in various forms since the 90s, should no longer be used even though it's the default when the lid is closed? I've been a fan of Dell for many years, against so much evidence of what a joke they've become, but this issue may finally ti…
> Any name brand PCs you trust to buy for family members who want a name brand and the perceived value that provides? (Besides Apple, I guess). It feels like you might've answered your own question. For better or worse, most of this kind of stuff "just works" in the Apple ecosystem.
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Recently bought a 7390 latitude (2-3 years old). amazing machine for basic remote desktop and basic office work etc. Battery lasts 10+ hrs on light work. Had the sleep states turned on and would randomly die at 60% battery while sleeping. Found out its a long standing bug in dells. Sometimes it just restarts the machine so if its in a bag it will just keep running. Turned of sleep states in firmware and instead now i…
The laptops can enter a special standby mode that keeps the network alive, so they will immediately resume when the lid opens. This means, of course, that the laptops never actually shut down and run constantly.
My guess is windows will apparently not let u control such things, as the advertising data pipe has to be alive no matter what. Microsft seems to be both google and apple at the same time, selling ads and hardware.
This is one of the main reasons I just returned my XPS 13 9310 and got a Framework instead. The sleep/standby/hibernate stuff is just bad. I don’t know if it is a Dell problem or a Windows problem or what, but it’s terrible. I’m primarily a Mac user but I haven’t had the same issue with other Windows laptops and the Dell has standby issues in Linux too so it’s just bad. And loud. And hot.
This is about the tenth time I’ve seen someone reference a framework laptop in the last couple of days. Is it a new company?
The issue is that Windows doesn't go into S3 sleep when you close the lid; it goes into a weird not-really-asleep state for... some reason that I don't agree with[0]. I guess that state is "hot" enough that you could damage the laptop by putting it in a bag while in that state. Fortunately I've been running Linux on my XPS 13, which I have put into a bag hundreds of times (maybe even over a thousand) while suspended.…
> "some reason that I don't agree with[0]" On my side I am quite happy that the hardware+software can support some kind of fast wake-up (similar to Macbooks and smartphones instead of needing >10 seconds to wake up when I open the lid). I just do a real shutdown when I don't need the laptop anymore. And precisely : as it was said by someone else above, on modern computers with SSDs, I would rather disable "fast start…
It's like Windows broke the simplest button ... just shut it down!
Years ago (~2010) I learned that companies sell laptops which can't cool themselves properly. I had an Acer "gaming laptop," which from the factory had fans which didn't sufficiently cool the CPU. After about 2 years of normal use, it cooked its thermal paste, and would shut off under even moderate use / stress. This is obviously a different situation than what's occurring with Dell laptops, but it's not too far afie…
You really can't trust the manufacturer to know what they're doing, especially if the potential problem is unlikely to be covered under warranty.
I own XPS 13 9380 with Windows 10. Same mess with the sleep. I have to carry the laptop in the bag when commuting. You never know what it is doing when lid is closed. There is no lights on the laptop to indicate its state so I just usually put it to my ear and listen until the fan goes off after closing the lid. Then it is semi safe to put it into the bag. Feels like stone age. Things are just getting worse with Wind…
The fan is loud, and it just won't go to sleep, so I end up always shutting down.
I rarely use it, and instead brought my own laptop to work. It's a shame because the Dell that I used at a previous employer also suffered from thermal and noise issues.
But at home I would still notice the laptop on by itself in the morning, or the fan starting at 2am, at some point I was just furious, that the PC would not respect my settings. I disabled wake timers, updates, schedule tasks...
Now I keep all my Windows inside boxes ...virtual boxes
I own XPS 13 9380 with Windows 10. Same mess with the sleep. I have to carry the laptop in the bag when commuting. You never know what it is doing when lid is closed. There is no lights on the laptop to indicate its state so I just usually put it to my ear and listen until the fan goes off after closing the lid. Then it is semi safe to put it into the bag. Feels like stone age. Things are just getting worse with Wind…