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Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by darzu »

filmgirlcw wrote: post #387

This is one of the main reasons I just returned my XPS 13 9310 and got a Framework instead. The sleep/standby/hibernate stuff is just bad. I don’t know if it is a Dell problem or a Windows problem or what, but it’s terrible. I’m primarily a Mac user but I haven’t had the same issue with other Windows laptops and the Dell has standby issues in Linux too so it’s just bad. And loud. And hot.

This always happened with my Surface Book, a flagship Microsoft made device. I could never trust it in my backpack. WTF msft.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by damon_c »

jorgesborges wrote: post #326
JonyEpsilon wrote: post #37

I have an XPS 9500 and have found this infuriating. I think there's two separate things going on: As others have noted, S3 sleep isn't supported, only S1 "sleep to idle" sleep. But I don't think this is the direct cause of the overheating. In S1 sleep, the laptop can average something like 900mW of power usage, which is enough to annoyingly knock a few percent off your battery overnight, but not enough to make the la…

Serious question — why do people so frequently sleep rather than shut down? Is it to save time on booting up? Is it because you want other processes running? All of the pain points below are reasons why I just always shut down. I think I developed the habit at a time when sleep just never worked on my linux machine though, but that was years ago now. I’m speechless reading below that Windows wakes just to install upd…

People who use Macs have been just closing and opening their computers for about a decade and not thinking about it.

The wifi is still connected, the ssh session I was in is still connected... The tests I was running when the doorbell rang... they pick up where they left off. It's nice.

It's stuff like this that keeps me begrudgingly coming back to Apple for laptops.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by mnadkvlb »

algismo wrote: post #403

I own XPS 13 9380 with Windows 10. Same mess with the sleep. I have to carry the laptop in the bag when commuting. You never know what it is doing when lid is closed. There is no lights on the laptop to indicate its state so I just usually put it to my ear and listen until the fan goes off after closing the lid. Then it is semi safe to put it into the bag. Feels like stone age. Things are just getting worse with Wind…

Recently bought a 7390 latitude (2-3 years old). amazing machine for basic remote desktop and basic office work etc. Battery lasts 10+ hrs on light work.

Had the sleep states turned on and would randomly die at 60% battery while sleeping. Found out its a long standing bug in dells. Sometimes it just restarts the machine so if its in a bag it will just keep running.

Turned of sleep states in firmware and instead now it goes to hibernate on sleep. No random behavior or shutdown.

Its mind boggling this shit used to work totally fine on older laptops, no idea what changed.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by esalman »

I bought an Alienware laptop in 2010. I booted it up in the shop, then packed it up thinking I've shut it down. After I got home I found out that it went to sleep in the middle of setting up process.

I used it at varying capacities all the way until last year when I lost it in an apartment fire.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by errantspark »

Imagine if we had the technology to, when a laptop was in a hibernated or off state to use some sort of a mechanism to physically disconnect the battery. I know this is absolutely crazy but it seems to me that this would solve these problems in a foolproof way that wouldn't lead to the situation where your mission critical piece of equipment has killed it's battery, or itself entirely because it decided to do something you didn't want. Imagine a physical device capable of making and unmaking an electrical connection based on the angle or position of a physical component that is then unable to be superseded by bad programming. Imagine.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by BitAstronaut »

filmgirlcw wrote: post #387

This is one of the main reasons I just returned my XPS 13 9310 and got a Framework instead. The sleep/standby/hibernate stuff is just bad. I don’t know if it is a Dell problem or a Windows problem or what, but it’s terrible. I’m primarily a Mac user but I haven’t had the same issue with other Windows laptops and the Dell has standby issues in Linux too so it’s just bad. And loud. And hot.

This is about the tenth time I’ve seen someone reference a framework laptop in the last couple of days.

Is it a new company?

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by system2 »

ragebol wrote: post #60

Well, that explains: I have a XPS 13 since jan. 2019 and last year I had to replace the battery. It bulged, pushing the keyboard up a bit. Luckily no fire

Which brand did you use? Can you share the link? I have the same issue.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by squeaky-clean »

algismo wrote: post #403

I own XPS 13 9380 with Windows 10. Same mess with the sleep. I have to carry the laptop in the bag when commuting. You never know what it is doing when lid is closed. There is no lights on the laptop to indicate its state so I just usually put it to my ear and listen until the fan goes off after closing the lid. Then it is semi safe to put it into the bag. Feels like stone age. Things are just getting worse with Wind…

I had a dell laptop around 2012 that had this same problem, on Windows 7. I also remember holding it up to my ear to confirm it shut down haha. And it did wake itself up and overheat in my bag a couple times. I've just avoided Dell ever since when I can. My current work laptop is some sort of Dell XPS, but at least I didn't pay for it.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by [deleted] »

errantspark wrote: post #436

Imagine if we had the technology to, when a laptop was in a hibernated or off state to use some sort of a mechanism to physically disconnect the battery. I know this is absolutely crazy but it seems to me that this would solve these problems in a foolproof way that wouldn't lead to the situation where your mission critical piece of equipment has killed it's battery, or itself entirely because it decided to do somethi…

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