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EU plans to force OEMs to use a common charger for all phones

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Re: EU plans to force OEMs to use a common charger for all phones

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So due to the EU we will never have a port less phone of any brand? That doesn’t sound right either.

A portless phone is not a good idea anyway.

That’s beside the point. (And people said the same about headphone jacks, but look at them now)

Should a government be able to dictate the feature set of a class of devices?

Re: EU plans to force OEMs to use a common charger for all phones

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> I wouldn’t expect to see any change. But then you subsequently need to buy a charger, which is what? $15 if you want to get a reputable one? Even if you only got a new one every three phones, that's essentially a $5 tax on every device. ($6 if you consider that the cost of the device wasn't reduced, with a $1 actual cost like you suggest)

I have never had a phone charger fail on me so if we assume that it lasts 3 phones and I buy them every 3 years, that comes out to about $1.66 per year for phone chargers. It’s not a surprise no consumer cares. The average consumer would pay an extra $100 for their phone to get it in their favourite colour. The cost of chargers doesn’t even register.

The fact that the average consumer doesn't care doesn't make it less shitty. Nobody is sitting around amortizing the cost of chargers by year. Fifteen bucks is a full home screen of paid apps on your new phone.

Re: EU plans to force OEMs to use a common charger for all phones

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Good, though in practice it's not the charger the problem, I use the same USB plug everywhere, it's Apple and their cable. Right now I always need with me a micro USB cable, an USB-C one, and Lightning, because Apple thinks different™. What's Apple reasoning for not abandoning Lightning for USB-C on their phones?

Seems like most USB-C cables and chargers on the market are fake. And as per "the market for lemons" the fake $2 chargers that can't output full power without smoking or have zero isolation from power line or refuse to use X/Y safety rated capacitors will push the good more expensive chargers off the market. The "Real World" is a lot more like "DiodeGoneWild"'s autopsies of power supplies than most people think. Its…

There's nothing stopping you from only buying first party Apple USB-C cables.

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The real problem right now should be the weight, the trend is going in the wrong direction.

Just curious, for which use cases is weight a significant problem? Even the heaviest phones - rugged or foldables - seem to hover around 300g. That shouldn't be at all tiring unless you are holding them for literal hours nonstop, or unless you're a small child - and in both scenarios it's good to be encouraged to put the phone down after a while.

Weight is important for some people like me. I'm not anything special or have disabilities, but I really prefer lightweight smartphones. Heavier smartphones (say > 200g) significantly increases tiring on single hand use. Weight balance is also important. I'm Japanese and I can confirm some similar people exists but seems to not majority. Maybe who use smartphone in both hand never care about weight.

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It can be argued that lightning is slightly better, sure. But billions of people use USB-C daily, and even half of Apples product line only has them instead of lightning, so not sure if the difference is that meaningful.

I don’t own a single usbc device, I have lightning on my phone, and tons of microusb-usbA devices/cables “Billions” sounds like a HN bubble statement.

US bubble.

Re: EU plans to force OEMs to use a common charger for all phones

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They need to mandate the presence of a physical cable, otherwise Apple will drop the port and move to wireless charging. Wired cable remains important for high-quality audio and secure data transfers. Both WiFi and Bluetooth have a long and storied history of vulnerabilities. While they are at it, can we please have a dedicated physical cable port for audio? It doesn't have to be TRRS 3.5mm, but it must be possible t…

Keep wire port is also important for not to use wireless charging. Wireless charging is inefficient, and reduces battery life due to heat so it produces much waste.
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