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Post by DantesKite »

crossroadsguy wrote: post #396
DantesKite wrote: post #211

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I had the first generation iPhone SE. Great phone. Some part of the phone degraded though and it started rapidly overheating, and then the iPhone SE (second generation) came out. If yours dies, I recommend that one. It’s a love letter to the first generation.

The fact that form-wise it’s a copy of iPhone 8 is sad. Especially the glass back and bigger size. Jack omitted (now, please don’t just say - “since I bought AirPods I’ve not looked back”). Besides even 12 mini is smaller than that. I’d say SE2 is rather a quiet breakup note to SE1.

I didn't feel that way. If you offered me a choice between SE1 and SE2 with equal computing capabilities, I'd stick with SE2.

It really is elegant and beautiful.

Re: iOS 15

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Post by josephcsible »

marviio wrote: post #397
josephcsible wrote: post #253

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Even Apple's mobile device security update lifespan is pathetic compared to desktops and laptops. If you bought a computer with Windows XP when it first came out, you got 13 years of support, and even more if it could upgrade to Windows Vista or 7. And if you're willing to run Linux or BSD, you can easily run supported software on decades-old hardware. This is the standard we should be holding mobile device manufactu…

We will eventually, but mobile devices are still changing rapidly. We have giant performance, battery, storage, screen improvements every other year. Comparing a iPhone 3 to iPhone 13 is like comparing a 286 with ThreadRipper. And how is the condition of that 15 year old Thinkpad's battery, keyboard and fans?

I know the experience would be subpar. But for people who can't afford a new device right now, it shouldn't also be insecure.

Re: iOS 15

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Post by GeekyBear »

true_religion wrote: post #387
GeekyBear wrote: post #207

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Scanning content on-server means that a single false positive is sitting there, ready to be maliciously misused by any prosecutor who cares to issue a dragnet warrant. These sorts of dragnet warrants have become increasingly common. >Google says geofence warrants make up one-quarter of all US demands https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/19/google-geofence-warrants/ It's not like we haven't seen Google's on-server data hord…

While I’m generally unhappy that Google never supervises its AI moderation systems, in this case it’s a criminal matter. Our police and prosecution ought to be enough review on its own. If our own elected government fails to do something so simple, I say fix the government. I don’t want to be forced to rely on the goodwill of a for-profit company.

>Our police and prosecution ought to be enough review on its own.

They are not.

>Innocent man, 23, sues Arizona police for $1.5million after being arrested for MURDER and jailed for six days when Google's GPS tracker wrongly placed him at the scene of the 2018 crime

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7897319/Police-arre...

Re: iOS 15

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Post by ewzimm »

DCKing wrote: post #410
ewzimm wrote: post #374

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It's ironic that unofficial builds have been able to support these devices so much longer than their makers. LineageOS has done great things. And Amazon has shown that longer support is possible. The Kindle Fire HDX, released on September 25, 2013, and still somehow their best tablet, received its last security update on November 3, 2020.

Here’s the thing with unofficial Android upgrades: they don’t have complete coverage in their security updates. LineageOS and Amazon can’t generally provide security updates for older chips. Only Qualcomm can compile new kernels for the Snapdragon 800, say. And Qualcomm stops giving you updates after four years (recent change: it used to be the three). The updates LineageOS and Amazon and anyone else provides are upd…

This is true, and Qualcomm vulnerabilities have been some of the worst. This makes Google’s shift to custom silicon exciting if they’ll commit to long-term support. We should start thinking of the value of phones in terms of cost per supported year.

Re: iOS 15

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Post by true_religion »

GeekyBear wrote: post #423
true_religion wrote: post #387

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While I’m generally unhappy that Google never supervises its AI moderation systems, in this case it’s a criminal matter. Our police and prosecution ought to be enough review on its own. If our own elected government fails to do something so simple, I say fix the government. I don’t want to be forced to rely on the goodwill of a for-profit company.

>Our police and prosecution ought to be enough review on its own. They are not. >Innocent man, 23, sues Arizona police for $1.5million after being arrested for MURDER and jailed for six days when Google's GPS tracker wrongly placed him at the scene of the 2018 crime https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7897319/Police-arre...

When I said ought… I mean it in the prescriptive sense not the descriptive.

The government should be held to a high standard, and when it fails we, the people, should fix it and not turn to private companies and ask why they didn’t step up to the plate.

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Post by KennyBlanken »

samtheprogram wrote: post #382
zepto wrote: post #254

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You sound like you think they were lying.

Personally, I don’t, but I was trying to convey a neutral stance. That said, I didn’t like their approach of secrecy and, at least seemingly and anecdotally, doing it when receiving updates rather than over time based on some metric such as battery cycle count. I find this possibly related to their anti-repair practices.

> seemingly and anecdotally, doing it when receiving updates rather than over time based on some metric such as battery cycle count.

You have absolutely no evidence to support this statement.

> That said, I didn’t like their approach of secrecy

Apple is under no obligation to disclose every practice or behavior, especially one which is completely innocuous and benefits the customer with zero downside. The alternative to slowing down the processor to account for increased internal resistance is "the phone crashes", which is exactly what iPhone 6S models did until Apple released the fix in an iOS 10 update.

Several generations of iPhones have been clearly specifically designed to make the battery and screen easy to replace (Apple even uses pull-tab-releaseable adhesives for the battery), and doesn't place the lightning connector on the main board unlike damn near every Android phone; it's an easily replaced module.

The "slowdown" was specifically to increase the amount of time before the phone's battery would have to be replaced. Other manufacturers have done the same.

How strange that this anti-repair anti-consumer company's OS releases support their phones far longer than any other phone manufacturer...

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Post by ilogik »

andrei_says_ wrote: post #229
ilogik wrote: post #201

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the photos are only scanned just before being uploaded to iCloud. If you have CSAM on your phone, just turn off iCloud sync

Great advice and great job repeating the manipulative framing of “if you’re not a pedophile, you have nothing to fear.” Also, if you have anything that may be matched by unknowable and unverifiable matching hashes and algorithms provided by multiple nation states now or ever in the future, including but not limited to political activists, protests, anti-animal-abuse activists, climate activists, and select ethnicitie…

it was a joke.

if you don't trust the switch, then why trust any switch on iOS. Why do you trust that they're not already doing it?

why are you using an iPhone?

Re: iOS 15

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Post by ilogik »

nopcode wrote: post #292
duped wrote: post #272

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If it's so easy to bypass then it sounds like it's a useless feature that won't prevent the proliferation of CSAM

Apple is worried about content uploaded to their iCloud. As there is no clear legislation, every company is implementing what they feel comfortable with.

some think they wanted to add this, so that they can enable e2e encryption with iCloud at a later date.

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Post by dnissley »

nebula8804 wrote: post #342
dnissley wrote: post #250

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Maybe you don't have the option in Canada, but Swappa has solved the sell-it-yourself problem in the US.

How does Swappa handle fraud? ie. saying the phone is broken and then shipping back some other device to the seller?

The seller registers the IMEI along with the listing, so if the buyer sent back a different device it would be clear they did that.

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Post by bmcahren »

Jtsummers wrote: post #107
bmcahren wrote: post #102

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What led you to not buy the official android phone? Are you aware of it? Considering all the major non-Google Android phone manufacturers are also the same that manufacture Black Friday TVs that fail on schedule, don't you sense this was a problem not with Android but with your choice of manufacturer?

I assume you're referring to the Pixel/Nexus devices. I've had two, I don't think either got updates after 3 years or so. A far cry from the 6 years that Apple is now offering with the 6S, and the 5 years most of their devices got before that.

I remember my Nexus program devices getting support longer than this. Hopefully we see a change in this trend over the next few years now that phones are generally more powerful and don't age as quickly except by battery degradation.
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