I could totally see Linux hitting 5+ percent market share for desktops on the next couple years
2022, year of linux on the desktop!
For once it might be!
Epic launches anti-cheat support for Linux, Mac, and Steam Deck
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Re: Epic launches anti-cheat support for Linux, Mac, and Steam Deck
#52Does PUBG not use this, or does it just not work that well?
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Re: Epic launches anti-cheat support for Linux, Mac, and Steam Deck
#53This is cool. Nothing ruins a game like someone cheating. What are the security implications of running an anti-cheat system on Linux? Do I need to give it root access?
Like another said in this thread, yes you would but it's because some cheats are rootkits. It's a little invasive but doesn't seem as problematic as other ACS like Riot's Vanguard, which is always on and China-owned.
> China-owned
State owned is problematic, I'm not in disagreement with you. But so is corporate owned. I'd like to see an industry standard anti-cheat root-kit developed as a publicly reviewable open source project at the very least.
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not 'arguably necessary'. Cheats can just as easily be detected from the server side through statistical analysis.
Oh great, so you've solved the problem then. The entire industry just hasn't discovered your one simple trick. You should let them know.
I don't think that level of snark is really warranted here.
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not 'arguably necessary'. Cheats can just as easily be detected from the server side through statistical analysis.
Oh great, so you've solved the problem then. The entire industry just hasn't discovered your one simple trick. You should let them know.
Valve does this though. I'm pretty sure their VACnet is more effective than their classical anticheat. It's just a lot more effort.
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oh great, so you've solved the problem then. The entire industry just hasn't discovered your one simple trick. You should let them know.
Yeah except he's right, the vast majority of cheaters can be detected server side. Literally no game does this, because ?????
CS:GO does do this.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
Arguably necessary when cheats people install themselves are actual rootkits.
Not 'arguably necessary'. Cheats can just as easily be detected from the server side through statistical analysis.
Client-side analysis allows the game to identify unauthorized access to game state, which is the root cause of most cheating (probably not going to prevent computer vision aimbots that just analyze frames). It's just a much simpler and effective solution than fine-tuning a statistical model.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oh great, so you've solved the problem then. The entire industry just hasn't discovered your one simple trick. You should let them know.
Yeah except he's right, the vast majority of cheaters can be detected server side. Literally no game does this, because ?????
Valve have been doing it with Counter Strike for at least 3 years. And the "VACnet" they have is still far from perfect. Especially with the less obvious cheats. They used to be a talk on youtube, but it seems to have been taken down.
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#60I feel that if we can could work on introducing more online cross-play, the gaming community would be a better place. There should be no reason why I can't play online with Xbox and PlayStation players.
There is no incentive to let you out of the Sony/Xbox walled gardens, unless you're Fortnite where everyone from children to adults love to spend stupid money on IAP's just to dance or clothe themselves and you don't want to miss out.
If they did, and you realized your game runs better on a real pc, you'd just defect and not beg/borrow/scam/hustle for a ps5 or new xbox (maybe for decent gpu still though).
You will take what they give you and be goddamn content with it. Unless you're Epic and even Sony gives up the GI Joe kung fu grip.