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Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by noxer »

foxpurple wrote: post #395
eitland wrote: post #374

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It is a pain to use IMO. You get a mail sometime in the future and after receiving it you have to turn around and download multiple chunks, log in for each of them and do it quickly before they disappear.

Probably more of a pain if you have a large amount of data and a slow internet connection. For me it all fits in the 50GB file and downloads in a few minutes. I guess pulling out 1TB of data on a slow connection would be difficult but I can’t see how google could make it better since downloading and extracting a 1TB zip on its own would be almost impossible.

mega.nz somehow managed to do this all encrypted. Dunno if its "NH approved encryption" also dont advice on using that service it has a bad reputation. Nonetheless it seems like it would technically be possible to have large amount encrypted files without losing the ability to handle single files and download whole folders as archive.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by jjulius »

BHSPitMonkey wrote: post #355
jjulius wrote: post #85

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What a terribly inaccurate, sweeping generalization.

(Pretty sure it was just a joke reference to 'Pirates of the Caribbean'.)

This isn't going to be the best response of mine by HN standards, but:

Well, fuck me.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by torstenvl »

jacquesm wrote: post #407
nitrogen wrote: post #91

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They already have, when they remotely deleted copies of 1984, IIRC whose copyright had expired in one country, but not in another.

They really couldn't have picked a better book to do that with.

Fahrenheit 451?

Especially given the name of the device...

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by jjulius »

bserge wrote: post #89
bserge wrote: post #55

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They are the worst pirates I've ever heard of.

Ah, but you have heard of them! (gotta do everything myself, but I can go to sleep now :D)

Well, shit, I apologize for calling your comment a "terribly inaccurate, sweeping generalization" (I can't edit my response, the option isn't there).

Well done here, I'm the asshole. :)

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by KennyBlanken »

Veen wrote: post #443
KennyBlanken wrote: post #346

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You've employed a strawman fallacy; you took a policy which is on its face pretty reasonable: "be mindful to provide enough information so viewers understand the context" and hyperbolized it, to put it mildly, into: "you are forced to write some commentary explaining what it's about and assuring everyone that you aren't..." Context is the opposite of "an explicit statement spelling it all out." Maybe I post photos of…

And how does that work when you're researching tanks and other military vehicles? Perhaps the researchers should photoshop someone wearing shorts and drinking a pina colada into their catalog of armored fighting vehicles from the Middle East.

> And how does that work when you're researching tanks and other military vehicles?

The title / description that says something like "Study of the use of mechanized artillery by guerilla fighters in the blah blah region", which is what you'd do anyway if it were for public consumption?

Don't be obtuse.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by quantumBerry »

LocalH wrote: post #476
quantumBerry wrote: post #383

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The entities that authored or authorized the system to identify the content as such are the persons that "think" so, because they wrote the definitions that identified him as such. You don't get to just make a system and totally disclaim all liability for what happens with it. If the people at google run the system, then they own what happens. In this case, they own the fact that they identified suspected terroristic…

> If you think someone is committing violence against others your responsibility is to shut down all support of that person, you mustn't aid them in any way. "If you think". What if you're wrong?

Intent matters. For instance, if a fed or informant asks to use your services and you think they are doing it for illegal purposes, such as terrorism, then you can be convicted (Even though the fed / informant never actually would have executed them, and it was a ruse to arrest you). If you come into my business, and I announce I believe you are engaging in terrorist activity, then the case is pretty much open and shut for my intent if I go on to support your ongoing concerns.

So if you're wrong, you merely didn't engage in commerce with someone you believe to be a terrorist. There's nothing wrong or illegal about that. The agreement for free services by google doesn't mean google can't end the service at any time, and I'd bet the boiler plate for any paid service has a pressure release valve to end the service if google merely suspects you of engaging in illegal activity. In short, Google owes you nothing, and they're not your slave to provide you service despite believing you're a criminal.

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Post by deathlight »

hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #470
mdoms wrote: post #445

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However you feel about a company and their support policies, don't call other people "meatbags". That's gross. You're no higher tier of person than they are.

I was differentiating between humans and bots. Claiming we’re some higher form of being than an animal is equally dehumanising to the animals.

Most animals are dehuman after all.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by jacquesm »

torstenvl wrote: post #483
jacquesm wrote: post #407

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They really couldn't have picked a better book to do that with.

Fahrenheit 451? Especially given the name of the device...

Ah yes, good one. That would have been an even better choice.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by quantumBerry »

simion314 wrote: post #459
quantumBerry wrote: post #183

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So you think if google really thinks you're a terrorist that they are obliged to go on supporting you? There's a big difference between having no idea terrorists use your platform, and actually supporting them by enabling those you believe to be terrorists.

If Google thinks you do something illegal then they should call the police after a real human checked. If not they should not ruin your life, who knows tomorrow all your Google accounts get locked forever because an Artificial (Non)Intelligence found a word or a part of an image that looks like something "bad" but not illegal.

It's estimated 2 billion people use google. And in the US for instance, one third of the people here have records for criminal activity. Google doesn't have the manpower to call the police on millions of criminals actively using their services.
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