Other areas may be different, but London is a very large city - commenters should remember that in discussions.
London riots / UK riots: verified areas
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Re: London riots / UK riots: verified areas
#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
This kind of comment doesn't belong on HN and I think people should take the time not just to downvote it, but to flag it. Click on "link" and then on "flag"
If you disagree, counter-argue, don't downvote.
I often wish there was some kind of assistance available for me. It feels incredibly unfair (not to mention insane) that charities, state aid, federal aid and so on would willingly spend literally hundreds of thousands of dollars per year on each of us (me and my son both) to keep us limping along in a zombified horrifying state of existence but I can't come up with a measly $50K--$100k (one time expense) to clean up my financial mess and move on and focus on writing software to teach what I have learned to others so that the roughly $3 billion per year that gets spent on medical care for a mere 30k individuals with this condition in the US could be shrunk to a more reasonable amount and their lives improved at the same time. There's a recession on. It would be enlightened self interest for The Haves to empower me to do this. But the odds are good I will keep limping along, just trying to pay my bills, while people like you pass judgement on me in the worst way possible.
If you had your way, I would be put to death and instead of the odds of me sharing my discovery with the world being poor, it would be non-existent.
That's my counter-argument, FWIW.
Re: London riots / UK riots: verified areas
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you disagree, counter-argue, don't downvote.
I not only disagree, I genuinely believe this doesn't not belong here. I have downvoted and flagged because I believe that kind of comment to be inappropriate on HN. Not all poor people are poor because they are somehow incapable, undeserving, or somehow unfit to live. Sometimes people are caught in circumstances beyond their control, and they are unable to get out of it. Not to understand that shows a breathtaking a…
OK, you've changed my mind, let's not kill the poor.
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#14Edit: #riotcleanup tomorrow morning all over town: http://twitter.com/#!/search/riotcleanup
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#15I'm a Londoner near some of the affected areas. The sky is not falling, London is not degenerating into lawlessness, and from what I can see from my flat window, police are responding quickly. Other areas may be different, but London is a very large city - commenters should remember that in discussions.
Re: London riots / UK riots: verified areas
#16I'm a Londoner near some of the affected areas. The sky is not falling, London is not degenerating into lawlessness, and from what I can see from my flat window, police are responding quickly. Other areas may be different, but London is a very large city - commenters should remember that in discussions.
So what was the trigger that started the riots?
Re: London riots / UK riots: verified areas
#17I'm a Londoner near some of the affected areas. The sky is not falling, London is not degenerating into lawlessness, and from what I can see from my flat window, police are responding quickly. Other areas may be different, but London is a very large city - commenters should remember that in discussions.
So what was the trigger that started the riots?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14450248
The initial areas are fairly poor and have a history of tension with the police, but the disturbances tonight seem simply to be youths intent on causing damage and looting.
I'm not in London, these are my impressions to give you a quick answer. They may not hold up to future scrutiny.
Re: London riots / UK riots: verified areas
#18I'm a Londoner near some of the affected areas. The sky is not falling, London is not degenerating into lawlessness, and from what I can see from my flat window, police are responding quickly. Other areas may be different, but London is a very large city - commenters should remember that in discussions.
So what was the trigger that started the riots?
and here's a little background context http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/08/context-...
Re: London riots / UK riots: verified areas
#19I'm a Londoner near some of the affected areas. The sky is not falling, London is not degenerating into lawlessness, and from what I can see from my flat window, police are responding quickly. Other areas may be different, but London is a very large city - commenters should remember that in discussions.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you disagree, counter-argue, don't downvote.
Somebody's already tried your idea... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_eugenics
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