Looks great! Two things that could make this laptop even more attractive are option for bigger screen (15" and/or 16") and support for AMD cpus
The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used
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Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used
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It doesn't look like a no-brainer to me (already a Mac user). The MBP has a better screen, better battery life, performance, has a metal body, is completely silent and has nicer software. That said, you should get the Air instead which is $999 with almost exactly the same specs, minus the annoying touch bar, and a tad lighter at 1.29kg.
For the record, I also own a Mac: the MacBook Pro, 2019 baseline model. I used to enjoy the battery life (though it has been slowly getting worse to the point where I have considered reaching out to Apple about it since the battery is glued in and I can't replace it myself). I like the metal body. I also like macOS. My MacBook is not completely silent because it's an Intel mac, but the M1 would be, that's true. As fa…
> As a reminder, your Mac's battery will die at some point, and your Mac will become useless.
You can replace the battery yourself for like 50 bucks, or have Apple do it for 2-3x that. We have MacBooks from 2013 in perfect working order at home.
Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used
#943Earlier quoted context omitted.
> because let’s be honest, when was the last time you used the right shift key? Worth a try if you don't have the habit yet: use the pinky of your right hand when typing capitals with the left hand and the pinky of your left when typing capitals with the right.
That's probably what I was taught, but in practice why? What's my left hand going to do with all its hundreds of milliseconds of free time while my right types a capital letter?
>What's my left hand going to do with all its hundreds of milliseconds of free time
Mine BTC?
Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used
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> I sincerely hope this company succeeds so that they are around when I do need a laptop. I sincerely hope they're around long enough to make a 15" version. My old eyes can't do 13" any more, unfortunately.
Yep, this is where I'm at too. 13" is just not enough space for me to get anything done productively. On my 13" MBP with my standard font size, my code editor can't show a full line of code without me having to scroll (VSCode with mostly default settings, font size 12).
FYI - I have Two of these for my machine: https://i.imgur.com/NiHzTzx.jpg
They are super light and all three fit in my backpack really easily....
I HIGHLY recommend.
Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used
#945Just received mine this week and while I prefer a 15”, this first generation is a fantastic purchase. Love the 3:2 screen and Linux support! This has convinced me I need to invest time into KDE as well to help bring forward the fingerprint sensor into the UI.
Just to touch back on this, the fingerprint reader works in the UI via PAM and CLI. It’s just not super UI-only user friendly.
Here is the proposal for the fingerprint UI manager:
https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-desktop/-/merge_request...
I believe but haven’t confirmed (and won’t) that Gnome may be ahead of the game here.
Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used
#946Earlier quoted context omitted.
For the record, I also own a Mac: the MacBook Pro, 2019 baseline model. I used to enjoy the battery life (though it has been slowly getting worse to the point where I have considered reaching out to Apple about it since the battery is glued in and I can't replace it myself). I like the metal body. I also like macOS. My MacBook is not completely silent because it's an Intel mac, but the M1 would be, that's true. As fa…
> As a reminder, your Mac's battery will die at some point, and your Mac will become useless. You can replace the battery yourself for like 50 bucks, or have Apple do it for 2-3x that. We have MacBooks from 2013 in perfect working order at home.
You technically can, in 66 easy steps and about 1-3 hours [1], all the while risking damaging your laptop. Compare that with 3-6 minutes [2] for the actually replaceable battery on the Framework.
[1]: https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/MacBook+Pro+15-Inch+Touch+Bar+2...
[2]: https://guides.frame.work/Guide/Battery+Replacement+Guide/85
Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used
#947The baseline, preassembled model starts at $1000. Windows 10 Home, quad-core i5, 8 GB RAM, 256 GB storage, a nice 2256x1504 display, thin and light (1.3kg, 11.7" x 9" x 0.6"). Compare that to your other thin and light options at this pricepoint. XPS 13, $1020 * i5 * 8 GB RAM * 256 GB storage * 1920 x 1200 display * 1.2 kg, 11.6" x 7.8" x 0.6" MacBook Pro: $1300 * M1 * 8 GB RAM * 256 GB storage * 2560 x 1600 display *…
> unless you like macOS
Anyone know of a Linux equivalent to Alfred and BetterTouchTool? I can get by with Gnome but these two tools are such a workflow gamechanger. Workflows and copy buffer with seamless integration in particular.
Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used
#948Earlier quoted context omitted.
For the record, I also own a Mac: the MacBook Pro, 2019 baseline model. I used to enjoy the battery life (though it has been slowly getting worse to the point where I have considered reaching out to Apple about it since the battery is glued in and I can't replace it myself). I like the metal body. I also like macOS. My MacBook is not completely silent because it's an Intel mac, but the M1 would be, that's true. As fa…
This is a good point. "Repairability" is a lot less important to me than lifetime. Right now, I have a MacBook with AppleCare. The author's criticism with AppleCare is that it can take a week for Apple to repair the computer. That's reasonable for me. So the real test of the Framework computer is not in the first week. (Although the initial impression is very impressive!) The real test is whether I can, 3 years after…
Even if Framework goes out of business, most crucial parts that are likely to fail are standard (hard drive, memory, battery), so you'd still be able to replace them yourself. And even for the ones that aren't (like the modular ports), the schematics are available [1], so anyone would be able to make new ones.
Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used
#949Jason Calacanis has an interview tonight with the founder of the Frame Work laptop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfVZhCTx6Tc&t=34s (starts 13 minutes in) I checked out the site and found one problem with it. I had no way of knowing both the screen resolution and whether the hard drive it ships is SSD or not. It is a very intriguing idea though.
The answer to both your queries are on this page. https://frame.work/laptop NVMe SSDs and 2256x1504
Thank you, looked all over and failed to find it.
Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used
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Finally somebody else mentioned it. I will never buy a laptop without a dedicated Home, End, Page Up, and Page Down keys. I've used Chromebooks without them before, and I still to this day can never remember how to select while jumping to the end of the document, for example. It's like four keys all pressed at the same time in a very awkward way.
From the Mac side, Fn-Up/Down support seems to be universal for replacing the missing Page Up / Page Down keys. I bet Chrome is Ctrl-Alt-Fn-Down, copying Mac: Down - Cursor trajectory Fn - Page instead of Line Command (Alt) - Document instead of Page Shift - Text selection mode (But I had to hit the keys and then look at my hands to figure out what they were, because I'm just used to keeping the modifier layers in mu…
Chromebooks don't have Fn keys.