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The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

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Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

#831

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You forgot the used market. The used market for framework laptops is nil.

Wouldn't you just replace motherboard + CPU to upgrade? No need to sell it.

You’d need to sell the motherboard + CPU then.

And eventually new motherboards will come up that are not compatible with your case or accessories.

Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

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The baseline, preassembled model starts at $1000. Windows 10 Home, quad-core i5, 8 GB RAM, 256 GB storage, a nice 2256x1504 display, thin and light (1.3kg, 11.7" x 9" x 0.6"). Compare that to your other thin and light options at this pricepoint. XPS 13, $1020 * i5 * 8 GB RAM * 256 GB storage * 1920 x 1200 display * 1.2 kg, 11.6" x 7.8" x 0.6" MacBook Pro: $1300 * M1 * 8 GB RAM * 256 GB storage * 2560 x 1600 display *…

I almost feel like I have to buy this since it really is the type of laptop I’ve always wanted - but the allure of the M1 is still there, making me second guess myself.

At least for me, The Framework is the laptop I wanted... in 2009 when I was still on PC.

After that, I bought a MacBook Pro and never thought about hardware ever again, except when I bought my second MacBook 7 years later.

Apple s durability and quality go a long way. And it’s « standardization » means it’s actually quite easy to replace batteries for example.

Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

#833

I find it kind of strange that they don't have a dual-usb c card. There seems to be more than enough space and putting two usb c ports on a single card would allow to carry a wider variety of cards without loosing out on standard ports. Is this possibly because of charging? It seems like such an easy and obvious thing to do.

Maybe the chipset only supports allows up to four USB-C ports? Seems like USB-C hubs are few and far between (I finally snagged one last summer after looking for over a year), so maybe hub chipsets are hard to come by and difficult to design around?

Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

#834

The baseline, preassembled model starts at $1000. Windows 10 Home, quad-core i5, 8 GB RAM, 256 GB storage, a nice 2256x1504 display, thin and light (1.3kg, 11.7" x 9" x 0.6"). Compare that to your other thin and light options at this pricepoint. XPS 13, $1020 * i5 * 8 GB RAM * 256 GB storage * 1920 x 1200 display * 1.2 kg, 11.6" x 7.8" x 0.6" MacBook Pro: $1300 * M1 * 8 GB RAM * 256 GB storage * 2560 x 1600 display *…

Let's be honest here, windows is going to be slow as a moonwalking Michael Jackson with that processor. Windows is, I kid you not, an order of magnitude slower than linux/macos.

What? Windows 10 isn’t particularly slow on my i7-4770K. You’re telling me that the i5-1135G7 (which benchmarks faster) is going to perform worse than my 8 year old CPU in general OS use?

Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

#835

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My thoughts exactly. I cursed those arrow keys every day for the 12 months my employer forced me to use a mac. Never did get used to it.

As @fouc points out, I meant this kb: "poster is probably referring to this: https://images.idgesg.net/images/article/2019/11/16in-macboo ..."

As am I

Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

#838

What are the long term prospects for this company? I'd like to have a repairable/upgradable laptop, but if they go out of business in a year, it's not much of an improvement over a Macbook... granted, it'd be some improvement since I could replace/upgrade commodity components like RAM or the hard drive but if the motherboard or display fails, I have to buy a new laptop.

Seems like what they have is in high demand and they only have an ANSI keyboard, which is only really used by the US and China (and people that don't mind limitations) Once they offer an ISO keyboard layout, you would expect demand to be even higher.

In progress!

Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

#839

The baseline, preassembled model starts at $1000. Windows 10 Home, quad-core i5, 8 GB RAM, 256 GB storage, a nice 2256x1504 display, thin and light (1.3kg, 11.7" x 9" x 0.6"). Compare that to your other thin and light options at this pricepoint. XPS 13, $1020 * i5 * 8 GB RAM * 256 GB storage * 1920 x 1200 display * 1.2 kg, 11.6" x 7.8" x 0.6" MacBook Pro: $1300 * M1 * 8 GB RAM * 256 GB storage * 2560 x 1600 display *…

If I could run MacOS on it I’d buy it today.

Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

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This is kind of a weird piece that really doesn't mean anything at all. I understand being in the "honeymoon phase" with a new piece of technology, but I don't feel like Cory is aware that he's doing that here. But there's some signs: He loved Thinkpads originally, but over the course of several years the company and the quality of the product went down the tubes. Now he's got a brand new laptop that he's only had fo…

Or better yet, after 5-10 years of frame.work laptops being wildly successful, they will slowly start killing off the upgradeability/fixability of the laptop.

At least then:

- we had 5 - 10 years of great laptops (or more likely 7-12 since people will put more effort into repairing their current models if the new are worse.)

- if they do this the market had already been proven and anyone with a few spare million $ can go and grab it.

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