The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

Post by baka367 » Wed, Sep 22, 2021, 1:36 AM UTC

Matthias1 wrote: post #573

NotPractical wrote: post #527

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For the record, I also own a Mac: the MacBook Pro, 2019 baseline model. I used to enjoy the battery life (though it has been slowly getting worse to the point where I have considered reaching out to Apple about it since the battery is glued in and I can't replace it myself). I like the metal body. I also like macOS. My MacBook is not completely silent because it's an Intel mac, but the M1 would be, that's true. As fa…

This is a good point. "Repairability" is a lot less important to me than lifetime. Right now, I have a MacBook with AppleCare. The author's criticism with AppleCare is that it can take a week for Apple to repair the computer. That's reasonable for me. So the real test of the Framework computer is not in the first week. (Although the initial impression is very impressive!) The real test is whether I can, 3 years after…

Post by wyclif » Wed, Sep 22, 2021, 1:46 AM UTC

the_benno wrote: post #634

bavell wrote: post #499

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Thanks for the report on Arch compatibility!

For what it's worth, here are also [1] the Framework community forum thread about Arch and [2] the Arch wiki page about Framework in case you're interested. I'm still waiting for mine to arrive (in the next batch) but I plan to install Manjaro when it does, and am cautiously optimistic that it'll be mostly painless. [1] https://community.frame.work/t/arch-linux-on-the-framework-l... [2] https://wiki.archlinux.org/tit…

Post by tathisit » Wed, Sep 22, 2021, 1:50 AM UTC

slabity wrote: post #187

topspin wrote: post #33

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Linus (the "tech tips" one) said something that sticks in my mind: "The only reason other companies can't do this - and Framework proved it - is because they don't care."

Another quote from Linus that's relevant: "Imagine being an engineer at a company at Apple, and it being your job to design the mechanism that makes it so that machine cannot start up unless the chassis is fully sealed. Apple spent actual fucking money making sure that product would not work unless it is in the exact chassis they shipped it in." That goes beyond not caring.

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Sep 22, 2021, 1:51 AM UTC

ricardobeat wrote: post #513

NotPractical wrote: post #492

The baseline, preassembled model starts at $1000. Windows 10 Home, quad-core i5, 8 GB RAM, 256 GB storage, a nice 2256x1504 display, thin and light (1.3kg, 11.7" x 9" x 0.6"). Compare that to your other thin and light options at this pricepoint. XPS 13, $1020 * i5 * 8 GB RAM * 256 GB storage * 1920 x 1200 display * 1.2 kg, 11.6" x 7.8" x 0.6" MacBook Pro: $1300 * M1 * 8 GB RAM * 256 GB storage * 2560 x 1600 display *…

It doesn't look like a no-brainer to me (already a Mac user). The MBP has a better screen, better battery life, performance, has a metal body, is completely silent and has nicer software. That said, you should get the Air instead which is $999 with almost exactly the same specs, minus the annoying touch bar, and a tad lighter at 1.29kg.

Post by lisper » Wed, Sep 22, 2021, 2:00 AM UTC