These laptops would be an instant buy from me if I could get a new AMD chip instead of the Intel CPU's.
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The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used
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#672I just want a laptop that has ECC ram
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#673I don't understand that choice, but to make the laptop thin, no, a Thinkpad T14 is thin (maybe not as a Macbook, but who cares about a couple of millimeters) and integrates a full size ethernet connector.
What is the point of modular IO if the IO that you are giving me is just USB, HDMI and a micro (not even full size) SD card reader?
I would expect to have a whole range of possible ports, for example I use a lot RS232 ports, I would have liked to find a module to add a serial port to my laptop.
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#674One topic, though, that I just cannot let stand without comment is the notion that Thinkpads are bad now. I have a Thinkpad X1 Extreme (gen2) and - apart from the stupid name - it is hands down the best Linux Laptop I ever had.
There simply is no "...secretive Nvidia graphics cards, strange BIOS rubbish...". At least with Fedora it just works (including rendering offload to the NVidia card if you want that.)
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#675What is the point of a modular IO if I cannot get an ethernet port? Or today only the old school people like me prefer to use a wired LAN connection whenever possible and hate using Wi-Fi that is unreliable and slower? I don't understand that choice, but to make the laptop thin, no, a Thinkpad T14 is thin (maybe not as a Macbook, but who cares about a couple of millimeters) and integrates a full size ethernet connect…
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#676I just got one of these last weekend(I ordered it in early August) and so far it’s really great. The modular I/O and general mission of the company was what initially sold me on it, but now actually being hands on with it, I definitely feel secure in my decision to get one. I can’t overstate how good these modular ports are. I also really like that you can bring your own hardware in a lot of cases. For example I had…
>when was the last time you used the right shift key? I generally use the shift key closest to the key I'm typing. For keys near the center, I favor the right shift key. The keyboard would absolutely be the show stopper for me, if I didn't just get a new laptop last year. The lack of dedicated Page Up and Page Down keys is unacceptable.
I've used Chromebooks without them before, and I still to this day can never remember how to select while jumping to the end of the document, for example. It's like four keys all pressed at the same time in a very awkward way.
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#677These laptops would be an instant buy from me if I could get a new AMD chip instead of the Intel CPU's.
EDIT: did I said something wrong? -2 votes already.
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#678Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's probably what I was taught, but in practice why? What's my left hand going to do with all its hundreds of milliseconds of free time while my right types a capital letter?
It's not just about speed it's also simpler and doesn't stretch your palms across the keyboard awkwardly.
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#679Earlier quoted context omitted.
You cannot neutralize and disable the PSP spying module in AMD processors, while in Intel ones you can do that with ME: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine#Assert... .
As much as I love speculating about backdoors and NSA wiretapping, I seriously doubt these MEs are malicious. At this point, managing a modern x86 is tough work, especially if you want to run virtualization, complex threading and maintain high efficiency. It makes total sense that there are mandatory supervisor chips at this point, and without any evidence that these chips are "phoning home," I simply have to assume…
No. You can boot and run an x86 without ME and most of that other stuff.
> It makes total sense that there are mandatory supervisor chips at this point
ME, secure boot, UEFI have nothing to do with virtualization.
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#680Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's probably what I was taught, but in practice why? What's my left hand going to do with all its hundreds of milliseconds of free time while my right types a capital letter?
For me it's more a matter of putting as little stress on my hands as possible. Pressing two buttons (shift and key) with one hand is just a little less comfortable than pressing just one key.
Yes, I see, that would be better if I could get used to it. (I'm pretty sure I use left only.)