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Re: iOS 15

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Post by tillinghast »

philwelch wrote: post #118
Jtsummers wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they get 30 (?) hits then they review the data and then they refer it to law enforcement if the reviewers determine that they were CSAM images. It's not for a single collision and it's not immediately referred to law enforcement. There are still major risks and concerns with this model, but at least describe it correctly.

How do they review the data if your iCloud photos are E2E encrypted?

Let the reader understand.

(i.e. They're encrypted in transfer and while stored, but Apple holds the keys: https://qr.ae/pGSHY8, https://manuals.info.apple.com/MANUALS/1000/MA1902/en_US/app... [search for 'iCloud'])

Re: iOS 15

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Post by Taywee »

SkyMarshal wrote: post #124
DanTheManPR wrote: post #58

Apple continues to support OS updates on the iPhone 6s, a device released almost 6 years ago. Nor is it reserved for their flagship models - the 2016 iPhone SE also gets the latest and greatest. Meanwhile, my flagship android phone from 2018, the Samsung Galaxy S9, is stuck on the last version of Android. At least it still gets security updates, some manufacturers don't even go that far.

How do Google's pure Android phones compare in this regard? Are they supported for longer? Eg, is this premature ending of support a Samsung thing, or is it endemic to the whole Android ecosystem, including Google?

Usually get 3 years. Pixel 3 launched in October 2018, and its updates end in about a month. I feel like that's still way too short, and causes many millions of still-usable phones to be trashed or recycled every year. Aftermarket OSes aren't an option for a lot of people, because some apps will refuse to run on an unofficial OS.

Re: iOS 15

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Post by windowsrookie »

SkyMarshal wrote: post #124
DanTheManPR wrote: post #58

Apple continues to support OS updates on the iPhone 6s, a device released almost 6 years ago. Nor is it reserved for their flagship models - the 2016 iPhone SE also gets the latest and greatest. Meanwhile, my flagship android phone from 2018, the Samsung Galaxy S9, is stuck on the last version of Android. At least it still gets security updates, some manufacturers don't even go that far.

How do Google's pure Android phones compare in this regard? Are they supported for longer? Eg, is this premature ending of support a Samsung thing, or is it endemic to the whole Android ecosystem, including Google?

Google provides 3 years of updates. The Pixel 2XL, released in 2017 (two years after the iPhone 6s) received it's last update December 2020.

https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/4457705?hl=en

Re: iOS 15

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Post by Cockbrand »

tandr wrote: post #96
Someone1234 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been using iOS 15 for a month or more, and I've had no glaring issues aside from Exposure Notification using excessive battery usage.

Excessive battery usage IS a good example of a "glaring issue", especially for a mobile device.

This is most true, but I've also had the same issue with iOS 14.8 for a while between restarts. So this is not an iOS 15 exclusive.

Re: iOS 15

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Post by BoorishBears »

DeRock wrote: post #37
Waterluvian wrote: post #10

Is apple’s photo search any less terrible now? Dunno if anyone else suffers this? Maybe I'm doing it wrong. Finding a years-old photo to upload is TERRIBLE. It's trivial to do in Google Photos, but then getting a handle on the photo when using the "photo selector" widget to upload it to Twitter or an existing email is horrible. I do this workflow dozens of times per week and the best I can come up with is: 1. text se…

Can you give an example of the type of search where Apple photos fails but Google photos succeeds? I only use Apple photos, but it supports my use case of date/location/"object detection" search, but wondering if I'm missing out on something much better.

Everything. Compared to Google Photos there's not one query that isn't vastly inferior.

Finding text in images, finding obscure relationships between a query and a photo.

I mean, I can search for my cars by make! Like, no logo showing, I type in "Porsche" and my old Boxster shows up including photos that don't have a visible logo.

I had out of town guests visit and we went to Times Square. I could find pictures from a specific vantage point by searching for specific text in billboards

The facial recognition is a million miles ahead too. Across all my photos Apple only recognizes a handful of recurring faces. Google recognizes people I don't even realize were in multiple pictures.

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I suspect Apple is behind because they're using less invasive indexing or something, so I'm not saying switch... but also Apple Photos might as well not have search once you've tried Google Photos.

Re: iOS 15

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Post by sneak »

DanTheManPR wrote: post #58

Apple continues to support OS updates on the iPhone 6s, a device released almost 6 years ago. Nor is it reserved for their flagship models - the 2016 iPhone SE also gets the latest and greatest. Meanwhile, my flagship android phone from 2018, the Samsung Galaxy S9, is stuck on the last version of Android. At least it still gets security updates, some manufacturers don't even go that far.

Meanwhile, after having every single major iPhone version since the original jesusphone, I'm switching from iOS to Android because I'd rather run out-of-date hardware and slightly more out-of-date software just to not have my phone spy on my local media contents for a remote master.

Apple's days as a head-and-shoulders above clear winner are over.

Re: iOS 15

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Post by GeekyBear »

SkyMarshal wrote: post #124
DanTheManPR wrote: post #58

Apple continues to support OS updates on the iPhone 6s, a device released almost 6 years ago. Nor is it reserved for their flagship models - the 2016 iPhone SE also gets the latest and greatest. Meanwhile, my flagship android phone from 2018, the Samsung Galaxy S9, is stuck on the last version of Android. At least it still gets security updates, some manufacturers don't even go that far.

How do Google's pure Android phones compare in this regard? Are they supported for longer? Eg, is this premature ending of support a Samsung thing, or is it endemic to the whole Android ecosystem, including Google?

They have slowly been forced to offer longer support, but are still currently at half as many years as Apple.

>One aspect in which Android has always fallen behind iOS is updates, with iPhones receiving as many as six years worth of updates, while some Android phones are lucky to get two years. In this area, Google’s Pixel series have held the crown, offering their phones three full years of updates, including monthly patches and three major Android versions. The original Google Pixel was gradually updated from Android 7.1 Nougat to Android 10 — an extension from the original promise to only offer two major updates.

https://9to5google.com/2021/02/22/comment-four-years-android...

Re: iOS 15

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Post by carabiner »

BoorishBears wrote: post #155
DeRock wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you give an example of the type of search where Apple photos fails but Google photos succeeds? I only use Apple photos, but it supports my use case of date/location/"object detection" search, but wondering if I'm missing out on something much better.

Everything. Compared to Google Photos there's not one query that isn't vastly inferior. Finding text in images, finding obscure relationships between a query and a photo. I mean, I can search for my cars by make! Like, no logo showing, I type in "Porsche" and my old Boxster shows up including photos that don't have a visible logo. I had out of town guests visit and we went to Times Square. I could find pictures from…

Apple's runs on the device, Google's runs on cloud with the results downloaded.

Re: iOS 15

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Post by Wilkolicious »

judge2020 wrote: post #3

The RC had a lot of bugs and was unusable for some users on r/iOSBeta. The actual release is indeed two builds newer (19A346) so hopefully they've fixed these issues. Edit: looks like it's only available for people seeking it out[0]. Maybe they won't auto-update till 15.0.1? 0: https://i.judge.sh/troubled/Flam/YOWIKKHUYu.png

I was on the beta profile, received the RC last week, removed the profile straight after, and now received iOS 15 (19A346). It's possible it's only available on the stable release profile.

E: Ah, you're talking about from 14.8

Re: iOS 15

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Post by BoorishBears »

Terretta wrote: post #105
radicaldreamer wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Object detection is much more broad in Google Photos and complex queries are in a different league ("dogs in new york city")

The ‘complex queries’ in Apple Photos is done as a series of discrete set descriptors. As you type your descriptor, tap the appropriate found set below (they list photos in the set) to turn it into a tag, then continue typing the next descriptor. For this search, you’d end up with something that looks like: [new york metropolitan area][dog] These result in a venn diagram of the overlaps. In my case with 12K photos in…

Their tags are just strictly inferior.

In Apple Photos I can search for a car.

In Google Photos I can search for a specific manufacturer and it recognizes not just the logos but attempt to classify the actual cars they make. For example, it recognizes a Toyota from a BMW just based on the body shape.

The text search is insane too, it can find text in photos you would struggle to realize was there in many cases, which is huge when trying to find old information.

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