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Re: iOS 15

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Post by msk-lywenn »

stingraycharles wrote: post #104
DanTheManPR wrote: post #58

Apple continues to support OS updates on the iPhone 6s, a device released almost 6 years ago. Nor is it reserved for their flagship models - the 2016 iPhone SE also gets the latest and greatest. Meanwhile, my flagship android phone from 2018, the Samsung Galaxy S9, is stuck on the last version of Android. At least it still gets security updates, some manufacturers don't even go that far.

At the same time, I do have to admit that things got very, very slow on the original SE. Maybe it’s the battery life throttling thing, but just felt at the end of its life, even though the software kept updating.

It is perhaps indeed the battery because I’m using an SE 2016 with a battery that I changed a few months back and it works wonderfully with iOS 14.

Re: iOS 15

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Post by Jtsummers »

KennyBlanken wrote: post #100
BryanBeshore wrote: post #5

For anyone wondering, this was supposed to be the release where Apple could scan your photos for child abuse. This was delayed for this release: https://www.techradar.com/news/apple-delays-child-abuse-phot...

Run an on-device scan against a hash database. Using a technology shown to have very frequent collisions. And then they notify law enforcement if they get a hit. Which means even if you're innocent - all your devices get confiscated for months, you probably rack up tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees, maybe lose your job, probably lose your friends and get the boot from any social organizations or groups. They…

If they get 30 (?) hits then they review the data and then they refer it to law enforcement if the reviewers determine that they were CSAM images. It's not for a single collision and it's not immediately referred to law enforcement. There are still major risks and concerns with this model, but at least describe it correctly.

Re: iOS 15

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Post by TheCowboy »

Anyone have a guess about when iOS will support web push notifications? One shouldn't really have to spin up a native app just get this single feature that all other browsers support on every other platform.

Re: iOS 15

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Post by signal11 »

DanTheManPR wrote: post #58

Apple continues to support OS updates on the iPhone 6s, a device released almost 6 years ago. Nor is it reserved for their flagship models - the 2016 iPhone SE also gets the latest and greatest. Meanwhile, my flagship android phone from 2018, the Samsung Galaxy S9, is stuck on the last version of Android. At least it still gets security updates, some manufacturers don't even go that far.

> Meanwhile, my flagship android phone from 2018, the Samsung Galaxy S9, is stuck on the last version of Android.

That's inexcusable, and this attitude carried over to security updates is a big reason some corporates left Samsung and went to Apple -- e.g. the A5, a midrange phone comparable with the iPhone SE, lost access to updates when the device was perfectly usable.

Samsung must've felt the feedback, because this year they announced a formal policy on security updates -- too late for the S9, but customers from S10 onwards ought to benefit[1]. They've been a lot better with Android updates on newer phones too -- Project Treble probably played a role.

> Galaxy devices will now receive regular security updates for a minimum of four years after the initial phone release. By extending support for security updates delivered on a monthly, quarterly or biannual basis

[1] https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-takes-galaxy-securit...

Re: iOS 15

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Post by flyingchipmann »

DanTheManPR wrote: post #58

Apple continues to support OS updates on the iPhone 6s, a device released almost 6 years ago. Nor is it reserved for their flagship models - the 2016 iPhone SE also gets the latest and greatest. Meanwhile, my flagship android phone from 2018, the Samsung Galaxy S9, is stuck on the last version of Android. At least it still gets security updates, some manufacturers don't even go that far.

Exactly. I am done with android. I will get a linux phone instead if there is a decent model and just get an ipad for mobile app needs.

Re: iOS 15

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Post by foepys »

signal11 wrote: post #115
DanTheManPR wrote: post #58

Apple continues to support OS updates on the iPhone 6s, a device released almost 6 years ago. Nor is it reserved for their flagship models - the 2016 iPhone SE also gets the latest and greatest. Meanwhile, my flagship android phone from 2018, the Samsung Galaxy S9, is stuck on the last version of Android. At least it still gets security updates, some manufacturers don't even go that far.

> Meanwhile, my flagship android phone from 2018, the Samsung Galaxy S9, is stuck on the last version of Android. That's inexcusable, and this attitude carried over to security updates is a big reason some corporates left Samsung and went to Apple -- e.g. the A5, a midrange phone comparable with the iPhone SE, lost access to updates when the device was perfectly usable. Samsung must've felt the feedback, because this…

Quarterly and biannual are still a joke. It's not like Google is keeping all patches and releases them at once without notifying vendors. Nokia was a little known a few years ago for releasing security patches before Google did for their Pixel models. Sadly, this has changed.

Re: iOS 15

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Post by philwelch »

Jtsummers wrote: post #113
KennyBlanken wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Run an on-device scan against a hash database. Using a technology shown to have very frequent collisions. And then they notify law enforcement if they get a hit. Which means even if you're innocent - all your devices get confiscated for months, you probably rack up tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees, maybe lose your job, probably lose your friends and get the boot from any social organizations or groups. They…

If they get 30 (?) hits then they review the data and then they refer it to law enforcement if the reviewers determine that they were CSAM images. It's not for a single collision and it's not immediately referred to law enforcement. There are still major risks and concerns with this model, but at least describe it correctly.

How do they review the data if your iCloud photos are E2E encrypted?

Re: iOS 15

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Post by brundolf »

arenaninja wrote: post #109
brundolf wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple Maps has been great for me, though I've heard the data quality varies widely based on where you live For me it's just a cleaner, simpler, less ad-infested version of Google Maps

I'm in the US but outside California. I find Apple Maps has better estimates for directions, but Google Maps is much more likely to have small businesses in its data set. I've also had experiences where it makes me drive across the street from my destination/1 block or two away I want to like it because, as you pointed out, it's a cleaner interface

Yeah. I'm in Austin, which probably means my local data gets more attention than most

They do have a mechanism for filing corrections from within the app, which I've used a couple times and it seems to actually result in fixes, which is great

Hopefully they give more priority to a wider set of areas in the future

Re: iOS 15

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Post by rootusrootus »

arenaninja wrote: post #94
DanTheManPR wrote: post #58

Apple continues to support OS updates on the iPhone 6s, a device released almost 6 years ago. Nor is it reserved for their flagship models - the 2016 iPhone SE also gets the latest and greatest. Meanwhile, my flagship android phone from 2018, the Samsung Galaxy S9, is stuck on the last version of Android. At least it still gets security updates, some manufacturers don't even go that far.

This is why I started buying iPhones. The resale value of a device after 2 years of usage is over 50% of the original cost if it's in good condition OEM quality is all over the place for Android, crapware is standard. It's been 4 years of iPhone for me and the only complaint I have is how bad Apple Maps can be

This, exactly, is why I switched to iPhones. The only way Android devices are cheaper is if you run them into the ground and don't upgrade until you must. Invariably they go on 50% off sale within a year for the flagship models, which tanks their resale value. Combined with the utter lack of support more than the first couple years of ownership.

I can upgrade my iPhone every 2 or 3 years and spend a lot less overall. My wallet was always open when I tried to stay current with Android flagships.

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