Interestingly, Freenet hasn't migrated away from Freenode. Mind you, there is no affiliation between these two projects, AFAIK.
Maybe Freenet people are chatting on FMS?
Freenet is a peer-to-peer platform for censorship-resistant communication
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Re: Freenet is a peer-to-peer platform for censorship-resistant communication
#92Some HN users are stuck in an interesting privacy paradox. Most of the time when a company or government tries to undermine privacy or encryption they jump at the throat and point out the need for both. However, it seems when we actually accomplish those goals and create systems that are truly anonymous, private and/or encrypted they basically say it's only for criminals and child abuse.
There's another side here. Some don't like companies and governments chipping away at privacy. At the same time, they don't trust Shiny New Privacy Startup 2021 to not expose them to illegal material as a result of being overrun by bad actors. I would personally rather an established organization to respect my privacy, rather than move to a new platform that does not have the resources to protect me from liability.
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
Without getting into which are better for now, are these the only two options for this concept right now?
https://geti2p.net/en/comparison/other-networks Also, Tor hidden services are somewhat close: https://geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor .
From the second link you posted:
> The two primary differences between Tor / Onion-Routing and I2P are again related to differences in the threat model and the out-proxy design.
This is the first paragraph. No further explanation is given about this point. The fact that it says "are again related..." suggests that the page used to have another paragraph before this one, that was later removed?
I would like to read about the different threat model and about the out-proxy design, anyone has sources?
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, I am against hate groups. They are the absolute worst of humanity, they destroy people, and they destroy societies. Do not participate in them. Do not support them. Do everything you can to oppose them.
I’d bet you and I both would agree that we don’t like people who recklessly put themselves in a situation where they are at extreme risk to catch or spread COVID. If we were to have a forum that criticized people who won’t vaccinate, won’t distance, won’t wear protective masks, and promote unproven treatments would that be a “hate group?”
Obesity isn't contagious so these things aren't remotely comparable.
It was just a hate group, stop digging man.
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#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think this comment is sensational but generally true. Replace CSAM with “right leaning” politics and you are just as fucked. I’m thinking about leaving the US and getting a EU work visa to avoid the shitshow. There are a lot of people who think censorship is good - in the name of fighting misinformation - and generally hold a negative opinion of opposing viewpoints.
Nevermind "CSAM" and "right leaning" politics -- I can't even seem to find a place that will host the anti-obesity group that I used to enjoy reading on reddit. (It was removed by Ellen Pao when they cleaned up "hate groups".)
Everyone moved to telegram. They host your "offensive" memes and chats, they dont care. Right-wing, left-wing whatever you can post it there.
You cant call for violence or show violence, like gore content and terrorist videos do get removed. Everything else is fine (for now).
Download the app from the website not form the stores to avoid googles censorship.
Re: Freenet is a peer-to-peer platform for censorship-resistant communication
#96Yes!! Finally. And the next generation of freenet is maidsafe. Many people on HN are unaware of most of these things. Tor still has sites hosted on a server. Dat and IPFS still have IP addresses of swarm peers. Freenet and SAFE network don’t.
Freenet is not affiliated with Maidsafe.
Re: Freenet is a peer-to-peer platform for censorship-resistant communication
#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, I am against hate groups. They are the absolute worst of humanity, they destroy people, and they destroy societies. Do not participate in them. Do not support them. Do everything you can to oppose them.
I’d bet you and I both would agree that we don’t like people who recklessly put themselves in a situation where they are at extreme risk to catch or spread COVID. If we were to have a forum that criticized people who won’t vaccinate, won’t distance, won’t wear protective masks, and promote unproven treatments would that be a “hate group?”
Yes. I visited /r/hermancainaward the other day becsuse I wanted to check it out, and I was stunned at how hateful the comments were against people who, sadly, had opinions that lead to their death.
I was sad that people could be so misinformed/misled, but the subreddit seemed genuinely happy that these people died. That sounds very much like a hate group to me, and I'd like to see it as banned as fatpeoplehate (which has hate in the damn name) was.
It's not about the subject of the criticism, it's how you go about it. These subreddit are toxic hate-pools, they aren't a force for good. They're reveling in the misfortune of others instead of trying to somehow help, and that's what makes them hate groups, not whether or not being fat or an antivaxxer is bad.
Re: Freenet is a peer-to-peer platform for censorship-resistant communication
#98…and its development has been exponentially decaying to zero for years. Mostly because of unsolved social problems (uneducated public doesn't understand they need real anonymous systems, and happily use corporate junk marketed as “private and secure”, while educated public dreams about making the next fart button app for the millions, and selling their data), but also because readily accessible public network gives t…
> uneducated public doesn't understand they need real anonymous systems
I really don't like this wording. How are you so sure that they NEED real anonymous systems? I understand the value of privacy, but I don't think I get to dictate what other people NEED.
Re: Freenet is a peer-to-peer platform for censorship-resistant communication
#99I tried hosting my blog on IPFS recently, ended up paying ~80 euros for my crypto illiteracy, still no decentralized blog. Yet censorship-resistance is something I want to have around my online home. So Freenet looks interesting. Could a Freenet-hosted page be accessible from a simple Web browser running on a machine with merely an Internet connection? If not, implementing such a thing sounds like a thing.
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
ECHR contains the freedom of speech as a human right and so do most EU countries in their own constitutions. "Countless people have been successfully prosecuted for what would be covered under the 1st amendment" (and the ECHR) in the US too. The constitution only has value as long as it's enforced.
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> That said it's also true that Germany is, in practice, a freer country than the USA
[citation needed]
Freer by what standard?
I’m a European living in Europe, but if I could move to the United States, I’d do it overnight.