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Freenet is a peer-to-peer platform for censorship-resistant communication

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Re: Freenet is a peer-to-peer platform for censorship-resistant communication

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Post by user-the-name »

fortran77 wrote: post #49
user-the-name wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is because it was, in fact, a hate group, not an "anti-obesity" group.

Ok, I get it. You're against free speech. But the point stands--it's difficult to find a place to host a forum that contains legal discussions that happen to offend the sensibilities of the type of people who run tech companies.

No, I am against hate groups. They are the absolute worst of humanity, they destroy people, and they destroy societies.

Do not participate in them. Do not support them. Do everything you can to oppose them.

Re: Freenet is a peer-to-peer platform for censorship-resistant communication

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Post by ogurechny »

user-the-name wrote: post #45
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't see any use case for a private and censorship-resistant publishing platform that isn't illegal? Okay, pretending for a moment that privacy and censorship-resistance aren't good ends unto themselves: Whistleblowing, publishing something perfectly legal but which political or corporate interests don't want published, and publishing or reading LGBT+ content in a political, social, or family situation that woul…

Yeah, but, is anybody actually using it for that ? Or is it just used for criminality, in practice?

How would you know if someone shared data with someone else (using any kind of communication system, not just anonymous) without telling you? How would you gather statistics of such transfers?

Some time ago, certain people used Freenet to transfer enormous amounts of data (for such a small network) in the open, and most users did not notice, and it rarely got mentioned (if at all). So when people state they have estimates of network usage, I get really skeptical.

Re: Freenet is a peer-to-peer platform for censorship-resistant communication

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Post by user-the-name »

ogurechny wrote: post #53
user-the-name wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, but, is anybody actually using it for that ? Or is it just used for criminality, in practice?

How would you know if someone shared data with someone else (using any kind of communication system, not just anonymous) without telling you? How would you gather statistics of such transfers? Some time ago, certain people used Freenet to transfer enormous amounts of data (for such a small network) in the open , and most users did not notice, and it rarely got mentioned (if at all). So when people state they have est…

Nobody has stated they have any estimates of anything, but this is a really defensive response to the mere suggestion that it might be good to know if the network is used for criminality or not.

Re: Freenet is a peer-to-peer platform for censorship-resistant communication

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Post by bitwize »

h_anna_h wrote: post #48
sgjohnson wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no near-absolute right to free speech in the EU. Countless people have been successfilly prosecuted for what would be covered under the 1st amendment in the EU.

ECHR contains the freedom of speech as a human right and so do most EU countries in their own constitutions. "Countless people have been successfully prosecuted for what would be covered under the 1st amendment" (and the ECHR) in the US too. The constitution only has value as long as it's enforced.

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Re: Freenet is a peer-to-peer platform for censorship-resistant communication

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Post by marcodiego »

I like the fact that I can expose a machine using tor. Its .onion address becomes something analog to a public ip address[0]. It even works behind a nat, so I can ssh to a machine of mine from anywhere in the world. The problem: the other point must support tor to access it.

Anyone knows a way using these overlay networks, tor, i2p, freenet, to expose a service on a machine behind a NAT to be accessed through the internet without the need of clients needing special software?

[0] https://golb.hplar.ch/2019/01/expose-server-tor.html

Re: Freenet is a peer-to-peer platform for censorship-resistant communication

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Post by alanweber22 »

EGreg wrote: post #52

Yes!! Finally. And the next generation of freenet is maidsafe. Many people on HN are unaware of most of these things. Tor still has sites hosted on a server. Dat and IPFS still have IP addresses of swarm peers. Freenet and SAFE network don’t.

In what ways does maidsafe improve upon freenet?

Re: Freenet is a peer-to-peer platform for censorship-resistant communication

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Post by mullingitover »

fortran77 wrote: post #49
user-the-name wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is because it was, in fact, a hate group, not an "anti-obesity" group.

Ok, I get it. You're against free speech. But the point stands--it's difficult to find a place to host a forum that contains legal discussions that happen to offend the sensibilities of the type of people who run tech companies.

> Ok, I get it. You're against free speech.

Another day, another person confusing 'free speech' with a private publisher not wanting to publish hate speech.

You're entitled to print what you want, you're not entitled to force someone else to print anything.

Re: Freenet is a peer-to-peer platform for censorship-resistant communication

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Post by [deleted] »

marcodiego wrote: post #56

I like the fact that I can expose a machine using tor. Its .onion address becomes something analog to a public ip address[0]. It even works behind a nat, so I can ssh to a machine of mine from anywhere in the world. The problem: the other point must support tor to access it. Anyone knows a way using these overlay networks, tor, i2p, freenet, to expose a service on a machine behind a NAT to be accessed through the int…

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Re: Freenet is a peer-to-peer platform for censorship-resistant communication

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Post by grumbel »

Popegaf wrote: post #39

Is this comparable to IPFS running on I2P?

Freenet feels very similar to IPFS, but it differs under the hood. On Freenet the network itself is the data store, you don't host your own files, you upload them and they spread over the network. If you go offline, the files still remain on the network. On IPFS on the other side you are storing your own files and the network is just used for lookup and caching. Everything on Freenet is also encrypted, so you don't get the content-addressability benefits (e.g. dedup) you get on IPFS.
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