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I think its pretty much just a complaint against Facebook. You could buy the first gen Snap Spectacles and its the same thing, no?
THat's my thought, too. Anyone who wants to hide a camera on their person can do so easily. A small hole in a shirt, coat, or hat can conceal a lens and cameras can be tiny. Yet nobody's rushing out to pass laws against "concealable cameras" in general.
Ireland raises privacy question over Facebook smart glasses
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#82For those who worry about the camera and your privacy, how do phone cameras differ in this respect with everyone taking and uploading pictures, videos, snaps, and tiktoks in public spaces?
I have no skin in this game but the most common answer to this is that it's a lot easier to tell when someone is pointing a phone at you, unless they're REALLY being sneaky. With glasses this becomes impossible.
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#84AR cameras seem inevitable. They're strange today but ask any 2006 non-techie if they'd consider carrying a pocket computer and they'd laugh at you. Now they all have one and you'd likely only get them to part with it from their cold dead fingers.
The privacy issues are a huge consequence but IMO they won't stop the march of progress. Too many positives. First is they enable AR which full sci-fi AR seems eminently useful. 2nd, they'll likely help prevent all kinds of crime, especially once implanted or put in contact lenses. Rape, Muggings, theft, seem like they'd all go down in a world where AR cameras are as ubiquitous as smartphones. How do backroom deals, government conspiracies, corporate malfeasance stay private when everyone in the room is recording it? You could say "they'll be told to turn it off to participate" but I suspect as we get more and more dependent it will become near impossible to ask people to turn off their connections. They won't be able to effectively participate in the meeting with all referencing all the stuff their AR display gives them access to. Police brutality? All of it recorded.
Further, as a 2021 person used to privacy it scares the crap out of me for all my private activities with others to be recorded. But a generation of people that grew up with the AR will likely have no such reservations. They'll be used to having every sex act recorded.
So, while the privacy issues are real I feel like it's mostly like commanding the waves to stop crashing. Impossible. Better to just accept that it's coming and figure out how best to deal with it. I don't believe laws telling people they can't have it or use it will work. I know if you value your privacy that sucks but I doubt anything can be done to stop it from coming and I so I think it's better to embrace its arrival.
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#85Why are people up in arms about this? Imagine a transhuman future where we all have superhuman memory and have integrated mind machine interfaces, able to perfectly transfer information between ourselves. Would you insist that people's memories be degraded to be close to the average memory quality? Or would you prevent them from transferring the information via things like degrading their perfect drawing skills? (Or…
I live in an all-party consent state, and would like to keep it that way. I don't want to be traced through other people's recordings, particularly through something that is easy to always have on.
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I live in an all-party consent state, and would like to keep it that way. I don't want to be traced through other people's recordings, particularly through something that is easy to always have on.
I just reported to my friends that bobthepanda posted a message on hacker news. I didn't ask for your consent to tell them. I also told my sister about a conversation I had with a friend. I didn't ask the friend's permission to share.
Just because something is possible, doesn't mean we should make more extreme versions of it possible.
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#88I know this will get DVed but this seems like one of those things we'll look back on in 20yrs and "mostly" wonder what all the fuss was about. AR cameras seem inevitable. They're strange today but ask any 2006 non-techie if they'd consider carrying a pocket computer and they'd laugh at you. Now they all have one and you'd likely only get them to part with it from their cold dead fingers. The privacy issues are a huge…
No - I massively disagree with this
we're still at the forefront of the internet revolution , if we simply cave in on things like this, then all the subsquent generations will get the pain.
We can stop it if we say no - it is 100% NOT inevitable, we can choose as a society
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At least they have "Ray Ban" written fairly large on the side, I'll certainly avoid people wearing Ray Bans in the near future.
Given that Ray-Ban has been one of the most popular sunglasses and eyeglasses brands for a long time, following that principle might make it really difficult for you to go anywhere in public.
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The problem with these is that they're essentially masquerading as normal sunglasses. I don't think most people in public will even notice that these aren't normal Ray Bans. Google Glass wasn't effective in part due to the fact that they were obvious to those around the wearer. That's not the case with these, which is frankly terrifying.
David Brin predicted that surveillance would be impossible to control in his 1998 book "The Transparent Society", going on to argue that there are two possible futures: one in which the masses are under 100% surveillance, while elites can act behind closed doors, and one in which the masses can also see what the elites are doing ("sousveillance"). I'm still hoping that there is a way out, but Brin is looking more and…