Ireland raises privacy question over Facebook smart glasses

Post by bobthepanda » Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 8:03 PM UTC

aierou wrote: post #56

e3bc54b2 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They have no track record of trust. Its worse. They have a consistent track record for asking for trust and then breaking it in most abusive way possible, then issuing a non-apology only after getting caught and then repeating same process all-over again. Oh, I forgot mentioning FB getting rich in the process, so it somehow becomes justified and has zero chance for change.

Aren't all recorded breaches of trust (outside of admittedly predatory data collection schemes endemic to the software industry) the result of unprecedented attacks on social networks as a construct? How would one anticipate such attacks? I think it's fair to say that Facebook grew too quickly to mitigate the issues inherent to social networks at scale. I don't think that makes them abusive or evil, just naive.

Post by agency » Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 8:05 PM UTC

pmoriarty wrote: post #66

shever73 wrote: post #24

This is exactly what I thought when I first saw them. The LED can be easily covered, and they look too much like normal sunglasses for the average person to notice. Day after day, my loathing for Facebook grows.

Unfortunately Facebook is far from the only company that regularly invades and has contempt for privacy. That contemptuous attitude and attempts to profit from privacy invasion is almost omnipresent among companies these days. On the subject of glasses that can record what you see, wasn't Google the first company to market them? There was a similar backlash against them too back then.

Post by fortran77 » Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 8:06 PM UTC

jayd16 wrote: post #46

aierou wrote: post #42

I don't mean to go too much against the narrative in this thread, but aren't cameras on glasses necessary to achieve AR? Are people concerned about these glasses just because it's Facebook, or is there broader opposition to AR technology?

I think its pretty much just a complaint against Facebook. You could buy the first gen Snap Spectacles and its the same thing, no?

Post by bussierem » Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 8:14 PM UTC

verdverm wrote: post #72

For those who worry about the camera and your privacy, how do phone cameras differ in this respect with everyone taking and uploading pictures, videos, snaps, and tiktoks in public spaces?

Post by aierou » Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 8:23 PM UTC

pmoriarty wrote: post #68

aierou wrote: post #51

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From my position, the mobile app shenanigans look like little more than intracompany politics. Where Facebook is not getting data, Apple or Google are still happily collecting. Overall, I would guess that there is no track record of trust because expectations remain unclear. Concepts of privacy, data usage, and such didn't exist before Facebook and others. I suppose I am not eager to assume malintent outside what is…

"Concepts of privacy, data usage, and such didn't exist before Facebook and others." They did exist before Facebook. But not before "others", which include every company and person who ever existed. Not sure why you added "and others" to that sentence.