I'm looking forward to a 3rd vaccine dose if it's offered! The UK govt are looking to offer a Pfizer bosster, regardless of 1st & 2nd dose vaccine types. Mixing looks very effective.
I am looking forward to get everybody else vaccinated before I am getting 3rd dose. Any dose is best spent vaccinating an unvaccinated person, even if looking from a purely selfish point of view of already vaccinated population. There is also still a lot of people that can't get the vaccine in less developed countries.
Deaths involving Covid-19 by vaccination status, England
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Re: Deaths involving Covid-19 by vaccination status, England
#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Or put simply, to stop the waves of nearly 100% unvaccinated people dying in hospitals, just vaccinate everyone. No unvaccinated people, no hospitals falling over. Half of the people getting hospitalized are not getting hospitalized for COVID. They are just testing positive for COVID. And hospitals nearly always run near capacity. And their capacity is also determined by staffing, which is going down because nurses…
> Half of the people getting hospitalized are not getting hospitalized for COVID. They are just testing positive for COVID. Yeah this myth again. You're not "doing your own research" you're just regurgitating talking points. I'm entirely done here.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/09/covid-hos...
Re: Deaths involving Covid-19 by vaccination status, England
#163Earlier quoted context omitted.
The vaccines are something around 98% effective against severe disease. If people were vaccinated they'd stay out of the hospitals. The hospitals are the problem. I feel like I'm explaining arithmetic to an idiot. And if you vaccinate everyone there will be less infections overall. For all of the worst-casing about VE and waning against infection it still isn't 0% VE. And breakthrough infections have less culturable…
Please stop posting flamewar comments to HN, regardless of how wrong other people are or you feel they are. You did that repeatedly in this thread and that's not cool. Even if you don't feel you owe the people you're disagreeing with better, you owe this community better if you're posting here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
By all means though, let this guy keep posting:
Re: Deaths involving Covid-19 by vaccination status, England
#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please stop posting flamewar comments to HN, regardless of how wrong other people are or you feel they are. You did that repeatedly in this thread and that's not cool. Even if you don't feel you owe the people you're disagreeing with better, you owe this community better if you're posting here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
This is the comment you choose to moderate??? I guess we can add anti-vaxx to the list of HN's right wing ideologies. By all means though, let this guy keep posting: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28514405
Picking two random points to contrast is the extreme of sample bias. You can make anything look like anything that way. As it happens, though, we've moderated that other commenter in exactly the same way as this one.
Could you please stop creating accounts to troll HN with? It's tedious.
Re: Deaths involving Covid-19 by vaccination status, England
#165This data is out of date. The cut off is July 2nd, it doesn't take into account delta, or the fact not a high amount of people were vaccinated at that point. The most up to date data comes from Public Health England. Public Health England published a report last week which gave us this data for the period of August 9th to September 5th. It shows that of 2,381 deaths in this period, 1,659 or 69.7%, more than two third…
This sounds like Simpson's paradox again: https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/israeli-data-how-can-... Anecdotally, my wife has been working covid ICU this month and to her it's not surprising. The people with breakthrough cases apparently have so many comorbidities that it's not surprising at all they'd get vaccinated with high priority but also have an immune system that doesn't do a great job learning new skill…
It's not that the vaccine is less effective for them. It's that they're starting with much poorer immunity, so even with the significant immunity boost provided by the vaccine, they still have significant susceptibility to the virus.
Without the vaccine, their numbers would look much worse than the unvaccinated.
Re: Deaths involving Covid-19 by vaccination status, England
#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can read the report, but the blood donor population is 17 years or older. The result of the report is that some form of immunity exists in 97%+ of the blood donors at least 17 years old, in the UK.
And blood donors are either socially responsible (probably vaccinated) or economically disadvantaged (probably exposed).
The most you receive is a cup of coffee and a biscuit.
Re: Deaths involving Covid-19 by vaccination status, England
#167Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please stop posting flamewar comments to HN, regardless of how wrong other people are or you feel they are. You did that repeatedly in this thread and that's not cool. Even if you don't feel you owe the people you're disagreeing with better, you owe this community better if you're posting here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
This is the comment you choose to moderate??? I guess we can add anti-vaxx to the list of HN's right wing ideologies. By all means though, let this guy keep posting: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28514405
Re: Deaths involving Covid-19 by vaccination status, England
#168Earlier quoted context omitted.
You do realize the 'bloodclots' issue was with the astrozenica (sp?) vaccine, that was never approved here, and it was with only a handful of cases in women? Your risk of a second, more severe case of covid is *massively* higher than the risk of serious side effects from the vaccine.
What about Jeb Corliss?
Re: Deaths involving Covid-19 by vaccination status, England
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> People are very, very badly misinformed about their risks for covid. This seems to be by design though.
Of course. The conspiracy guys has been the ones who have been correct through this pandemic, predicting every escalation, and the coming response. If you are someone intelligent who wants to know about covid for real, you should read the conspiracy subreddit on reddit and also turn off the TV news. That's the actual truth, but people can't take it.
I could conclude that the latter camp was correct. Or that when you have competing versions of conspiracy theories, predicting different outcomes, one of them will always appear to be prescient after the fact. Then you can ignore the others that didn't pan out, and say that everything that's happened so far has been predicted by the conspiracy guys.
Re: Deaths involving Covid-19 by vaccination status, England
#170I have been looking for one number. Maybe someone can help me. What is the mortality rate for unvaxxed healthy adults between the age of 18 and 50? I can’t help but be dubious that this group needs vaccination.
How can we be 18 months into a global pandemic and so many people still not understand that diseases are contagious and “healthy” people who manage to avoid dying from the disease still spread it and also take away healthcare resources from other people who need treatment for any number of injuries and maladies?