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Windows 11: Just say no

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Re: Windows 11: Just say no

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Post by krimbus »

tablespoon wrote: post #369
john_moscow wrote: post #351

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It continues a decades-long tradition where every other Windows version is borderline unusable and universally hated. As long as I remember: * Windows 3.0 was perceived as buggy * Windows 3.1/3.11 was a major improvement * Windows 95 was extremely unreliable * Windows 98 sort of addressed most of the issues * Windows 2000 was a weird amalgamation of the NT kernel and 98/ME look'n'feel that wasn't received well * Wind…

> * Windows 10 fixed it Windows 10 is biggest garbage fire POS Windows version yet, because of their new update model. For the last several months , I've been unable to install the mandatory (for non-enterprise users) feature update patches. They fail to install with a cryptic error code and get rolled back. If I don't get this figured out soon, I'm not going to be able to get security patches anymore. I should be ab…

Yeah. I had the same issue and could not stand the update nagging anymore.

Thankfully, a buddy of mine pointed me to SetupDiag, which parses the logs to get you more info. In the end, the update was failing due to an accelerometer driver (!!).

Re: Windows 11: Just say no

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Post by pjmlp »

belval wrote: post #272
pjmlp wrote: post #105

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React Native != React. Also do you consider that VSCode has higher performance requirements than XBox dashboard, or Office plugins?

No commenting on the React thing, but yes I do think that VSCode has much higher performance requirements than Xbox dashboard or Office plugins. VSCode has a very technical user base that will complain a lot if there is any kind of sluggish performance when doing live debugging. It's not just to work on small JS projects anymore. I use it to debug CUDA kernels on several processes at the same time and a lot of people…

If the user base was that technical, with performance requirements, they wouldn't be using an Electron based product to start with, when there are plenty of other native alternatives, including for CUDA debugging from Nvidia themselves.

Re: Windows 11: Just say no

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Post by runamok »

lou1306 wrote: post #361
ycuser2 wrote: post #354

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Where's Windows ME?

It should be in Windows 2000's place. ME was a Windows 9x system, 2000 was part of the NT family.

Yeah. Windows 2000 was rock solid compared to 95 and 98 and became the underpinnings for future consumer releases of windows...

Re: Windows 11: Just say no

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Post by guardian5x »

tartoran wrote: post #229
babypuncher wrote: post #183

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People just don't like change. There will be lots of weeping and wailing an gnashing of teeth, then people will grow accustomed to it. Same happened with 8 and 10. The furor over 8's missing start menu was intense, even though it takes literally seconds to install Classic Shell and get a better start menu than Windows 7 ever had. In 3-4 years the cycle will repeat again with Windows 12.

Why change something that you already are familiar with and already sunk time to master your own workflow on? Let that be people’s decision, not get it forced down their throats. Windows has been taking control from the users, became agressive with telemetry, inability to control when you want to apply upgrades, lost work on sessions due to automatic upgrades, removed settings after upgrade, interminable waits after…

There are often reasons to change, and sometimes reasons to keep things. A lot of it is subjective.

Re: Windows 11: Just say no

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Post by nyanpasu64 »

Sunspark wrote: post #24
GnarfGnarf wrote: post #14

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I migrated from Win32 to Qt two years ago. Never looked back. Much easier to program dialogs & UI. Qt gives you macOS as well. ( And UWP if you insist). WinRT is the OS/2 of the 21st century.

I have some concerns with Qt. Not the functionality, but the implementation of some of it. My primary concern is that it doesn't respect the OS's anti-aliasing settings. It defaults to making fonts anti-aliased, even if you don't want them to be. Because of this, last year I stopped updating an app using Qt. The higher resolution a display is, the less and less you need anti-aliasing so it's unnecessary in the 4K and…

What OS and DPI are you on?

Re: Windows 11: Just say no

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Post by [deleted] »

john_moscow wrote: post #351
Someone1234 wrote: post #21

Windows 11 is half-baked. But it isn't just half-baked because it was rushed out while ignoring all the feedback (although it absolutely was). It is also half-baked because Microsoft's management has no particular strategy or plan for what they want Windows to be. So Windows 11 just feels like an "and kitchen sink" where someone picked up an iPad, noted down a bunch of random features without rhyme or reason and then…

It continues a decades-long tradition where every other Windows version is borderline unusable and universally hated. As long as I remember: * Windows 3.0 was perceived as buggy * Windows 3.1/3.11 was a major improvement * Windows 95 was extremely unreliable * Windows 98 sort of addressed most of the issues * Windows 2000 was a weird amalgamation of the NT kernel and 98/ME look'n'feel that wasn't received well * Wind…

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Re: Windows 11: Just say no

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Post by branko_d »

john_moscow wrote: post #351
Someone1234 wrote: post #21

Windows 11 is half-baked. But it isn't just half-baked because it was rushed out while ignoring all the feedback (although it absolutely was). It is also half-baked because Microsoft's management has no particular strategy or plan for what they want Windows to be. So Windows 11 just feels like an "and kitchen sink" where someone picked up an iPad, noted down a bunch of random features without rhyme or reason and then…

It continues a decades-long tradition where every other Windows version is borderline unusable and universally hated. As long as I remember: * Windows 3.0 was perceived as buggy * Windows 3.1/3.11 was a major improvement * Windows 95 was extremely unreliable * Windows 98 sort of addressed most of the issues * Windows 2000 was a weird amalgamation of the NT kernel and 98/ME look'n'feel that wasn't received well * Wind…

Windows 2000 was an excellent OS. Clean, frugal and and rock-solid.

XP was bloated in comparison.

Re: Windows 11: Just say no

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Post by innocenat »

faeyanpiraat wrote: post #363
john_moscow wrote: post #351

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It continues a decades-long tradition where every other Windows version is borderline unusable and universally hated. As long as I remember: * Windows 3.0 was perceived as buggy * Windows 3.1/3.11 was a major improvement * Windows 95 was extremely unreliable * Windows 98 sort of addressed most of the issues * Windows 2000 was a weird amalgamation of the NT kernel and 98/ME look'n'feel that wasn't received well * Wind…

Vista was fine, no idea what's all the hate about.

Vista SP1 was fine. Vista before that wasn't, really.

Re: Windows 11: Just say no

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Post by hulitu »

jpe90 wrote: post #379
tablespoon wrote: post #369

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> * Windows 10 fixed it Windows 10 is biggest garbage fire POS Windows version yet, because of their new update model. For the last several months , I've been unable to install the mandatory (for non-enterprise users) feature update patches. They fail to install with a cryptic error code and get rolled back. If I don't get this figured out soon, I'm not going to be able to get security patches anymore. I should be ab…

Is a fresh install not an option for the system you're describing? I'm not suggesting that it's a sane thing to have to do, but after a couple of hours of resesrching the problem with no leads it seems like the best choice.

A fresh install is the solution to every windows problem. The issue is that we are not young anymore and we don't have the time to do it. Windows 10 being a quality disaster does not help either.

Re: Windows 11: Just say no

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Post by hulitu »

ycuser2 wrote: post #354
john_moscow wrote: post #351

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It continues a decades-long tradition where every other Windows version is borderline unusable and universally hated. As long as I remember: * Windows 3.0 was perceived as buggy * Windows 3.1/3.11 was a major improvement * Windows 95 was extremely unreliable * Windows 98 sort of addressed most of the issues * Windows 2000 was a weird amalgamation of the NT kernel and 98/ME look'n'feel that wasn't received well * Wind…

Where's Windows ME?

It's crashing. Seriosly is a good thing that they did not mention it although some people claimed it was stable on their computer.
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