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With Google, There Will Be Bad Blood

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Re: With Google, There Will Be Bad Blood

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Competition is ultimately good for users. As long as Google isn't using its size in a Microsoft-vs-Netscape capacity to compete unfairly and destroy innovation in a particular market, I think we should welcome this trend.

Google's release of Android parallels Microsoft's release of IE a little too closely for some (I do believe it was mentioned in some report I read).

Re: With Google, There Will Be Bad Blood

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People aren't pissed at Google because of they are trying to get into other people's markets. Startups and developers are creeped out by of Google. Follow me: What is Google's product? Really, If you were to sell Google, what would you say it's product is? Think about it long and hard, and what you end up with (I believe) is the world's largest trove of personal data and information ever accumulated: email, voice pri…

Give me a break.

> And, Google's secrecy and self-isolation erodes trust.

Many, if not most, tech companies are much more secretive than Google (Apple?). From the few times I've read Google's blogs, I thought they were quite transparent and open.

> the current interpretation of Delaware corporate law states that a corporation must maximize shareholder value.

That would make a great tagline for a dystopian Hollywood film. There is a good reason why Google takes good care of your data and won't sell it to evil governments or corporations: they would go out of business if they did so.

Your comment is more a criticism of NDAs, corporate secrecy and capitalism than Google itself.

Re: With Google, There Will Be Bad Blood

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post #5

Competition is ultimately good for users. As long as Google isn't using its size in a Microsoft-vs-Netscape capacity to compete unfairly and destroy innovation in a particular market, I think we should welcome this trend.

Google's release of Android parallels Microsoft's release of IE a little too closely for some (I do believe it was mentioned in some report I read).

That makes no sense at all. IE was bundled with the OS which was licensed for money, forced down the PC manufacturers' neck with anti competitive terms and conditions along with proprietary technology (ActiveX/VBScript) to further Microsoft's monopolistic grip on the PC market.

On the contrary Google is distributing an Open Source OS with well documented APIs (that RIM is using to run Android apps as-is), they aren't requiring any anti-competitive agreements/royalties from anyone to forbid them using alternative OS etc. They are betting on good-will and competence as far as I can see - that manufacturers can use it on its merits rather than being forced to do it. Of course in the process they are making money but it's win-win for everyone.

IE killed Netscape - that was anti competitive for some but having lived through Netscape 4.x I can assure you that Netscape's incompetence was also a big part of their failure.

Re: With Google, There Will Be Bad Blood

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post #5

Competition is ultimately good for users. As long as Google isn't using its size in a Microsoft-vs-Netscape capacity to compete unfairly and destroy innovation in a particular market, I think we should welcome this trend.

Google's release of Android parallels Microsoft's release of IE a little too closely for some (I do believe it was mentioned in some report I read).

They really shouldn't have bundled Android with GMail like that.

Re: With Google, There Will Be Bad Blood

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google's release of Android parallels Microsoft's release of IE a little too closely for some (I do believe it was mentioned in some report I read).

They really shouldn't have bundled Android with GMail like that.

Gmail isn't bundled with Android. In fact Google went after CyanogenMod for bundling it.

Re: With Google, There Will Be Bad Blood

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Am I the only one feeling like some people are trying way too hard to influence others on how they perceive Google? It seems to all have happened at the same time too. I don't have any proof, but it does smell a bit like an astroturf campaign (I'm not referring to this TC article, but mostly to comments I've seen here and elsewhere).

Re: With Google, There Will Be Bad Blood

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There have been quite a few stories here recently, bashing Google. Reading this, I'm actually concerned that a company that dominates so much of my online persona could end up being gutted as a result of some very expensive patent cases. Could we end up back with hotmail again in 2 years time when this dust settles? Will our (popular, modern) phones cease to be quite so useful if the almighty Google falls? (mail/cale…

what does it matter history has shown people will start over with whatever services are better or easier. if google falls you'll go with another set of services and the cycle starts over.

I'm not sure something as useful and integrated would rise anytime soon, though. It might be more akin to the Roman empire falling and feudalism reigning for years until something else comes along. Google's been able to make so many high quality services for free because they dominated a cashcow (search) for years. Those kinds of situations are somewhat rare.

Re: With Google, There Will Be Bad Blood

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post #15
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They really shouldn't have bundled Android with GMail like that.

Gmail isn't bundled with Android. In fact Google went after CyanogenMod for bundling it.

I think he's going after the inverse point and in a sarcastic manner: that Google didn't bundle Android along with any of their popular products. Microsoft did by including IE with Windows which was then shipped with every computer, thus using their dominant marketshare of the OS space in order to take over the browser space.

Re: With Google, There Will Be Bad Blood

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gmail isn't bundled with Android. In fact Google went after CyanogenMod for bundling it.

I think he's going after the inverse point and in a sarcastic manner: that Google didn't bundle Android along with any of their popular products. Microsoft did by including IE with Windows which was then shipped with every computer, thus using their dominant marketshare of the OS space in order to take over the browser space.

Could be. I read it as being a serious point but I can see how it could also be sarcastic.

Re: With Google, There Will Be Bad Blood

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post #5

Competition is ultimately good for users. As long as Google isn't using its size in a Microsoft-vs-Netscape capacity to compete unfairly and destroy innovation in a particular market, I think we should welcome this trend.

This is a very important point. With iPhone and Android neck & neck in the marketplace there's a tremendous incentive for both companies to make the best products they can and to make their users happy. Let's not forget how stagnant desktop computing became in the years of the Microsoft monopoly.
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