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With Google, There Will Be Bad Blood

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Re: With Google, There Will Be Bad Blood

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There have been quite a few stories here recently, bashing Google. Reading this, I'm actually concerned that a company that dominates so much of my online persona could end up being gutted as a result of some very expensive patent cases.

Could we end up back with hotmail again in 2 years time when this dust settles? Will our (popular, modern) phones cease to be quite so useful if the almighty Google falls? (mail/calendar/contact synching/chat)

I suppose I should be more concerned by my own reliance on an American for-profit company than on if they'll come out of all this unscathed...

Re: With Google, There Will Be Bad Blood

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Is anyone really surprised? Microsoft destroyed Netscape by leveraging the profit made in one market to give away something in another. Apple execs totally screwed up the patents on the UI which let Microsoft develop Windows and kill their market share. Institutional memory is an amazing thing.

Re: With Google, There Will Be Bad Blood

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Competition is ultimately good for users. As long as Google isn't using its size in a Microsoft-vs-Netscape capacity to compete unfairly and destroy innovation in a particular market, I think we should welcome this trend.

Re: With Google, There Will Be Bad Blood

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TL;DR: Google tries to enter many different markets at the same time. People are upset that Google is encroaching on their territory. The encroachees are retaliating.

I think MG Siegler is the John C. Dvorak of these modern times. I wish the TC authors would disclose any stock positions they have in any company mentioned in their posts.

Re: With Google, There Will Be Bad Blood

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There have been quite a few stories here recently, bashing Google. Reading this, I'm actually concerned that a company that dominates so much of my online persona could end up being gutted as a result of some very expensive patent cases. Could we end up back with hotmail again in 2 years time when this dust settles? Will our (popular, modern) phones cease to be quite so useful if the almighty Google falls? (mail/cale…

what does it matter history has shown people will start over with whatever services are better or easier. if google falls you'll go with another set of services and the cycle starts over.

Re: With Google, There Will Be Bad Blood

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There have been quite a few stories here recently, bashing Google. Reading this, I'm actually concerned that a company that dominates so much of my online persona could end up being gutted as a result of some very expensive patent cases. Could we end up back with hotmail again in 2 years time when this dust settles? Will our (popular, modern) phones cease to be quite so useful if the almighty Google falls? (mail/cale…

what does it matter history has shown people will start over with whatever services are better or easier. if google falls you'll go with another set of services and the cycle starts over.

Oh I don't doubt that I'll be able to start over somewhere else, but this event would be the first of its scale. Google own/hold more of my identity than any other online system/organisation ever has - something I'm sure is true for others too.

Moving to other providers, after having invested so much time and effort (for better or worse) into the almighty GOOG would be a massive pain for me, a techy, let alone for those not so inclined. I can't imagine having to walk through the Yahoo! Mail interface with my mother, for example :)

Re: With Google, There Will Be Bad Blood

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People aren't pissed at Google because of they are trying to get into other people's markets.

Startups and developers are creeped out by of Google.

Follow me:

What is Google's product? Really, If you were to sell Google, what would you say it's product is?

Think about it long and hard, and what you end up with (I believe) is the world's largest trove of personal data and information ever accumulated: email, voice prints, search data, location data, music preferences, sexual predilections, travel information, etc... And, they have an insatiable hunger to gather more data.

How do they make money off if it? Right now... selling ads based on the world's biggest recommender system.

Couple that with Google's strict NDA policy which prevents Googlers from being out and about in the community talking about what they are doing, and people really get creeped out.

Google's IP restrictions essentially prevent Googlers from working on a startup in their spare time, because it would compete with their employer, whose mission is to "organize the world's information". Which makes a deafening silence around the Googleplex when it comes to spinning off startups.

Finally, the current interpretation of Delaware corporate law states that a corporation must maximize shareholder value. In the next 20 years, Google is going to have to start extracting more value out of this massive database of personal information they are assembling. And, Google's secrecy and self-isolation erodes trust. No one has any clue or guarantee about what Google is going to do next. It's impossible to contact someone on the inside if the Google behemoth blindly steps on you. They have no customer service to speak of.

This is why people in the Valley are creeped out by Google.

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