Apple blocked the FlickType Watch keyboard then announced a clone of it

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Sep 16, 2021, 9:01 AM UTC

JohnTHaller wrote: post #175

Razengan wrote: post #166

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So why has there never been a horde of torches and pitchforks outside Castle Xbox, PlayStation and Nintendo yet? And don’t squeeze out that “cOnSoLeS aReNt cOmPuTeRs” bullshit. They’re closer to computers than a goddamn wristwatch.

I'd wager a lot of it has to do with history. Gaming consoles were always proprietary hardware that could only do things approved by the manufacturer, and were purchased with that understanding, unless you did some hacking. Computers were always open platforms that you purchased and then could do what you wanted with, no hacking required. iOS was the first major market computing platform that broke this general under…

Post by germandiago » Thu, Sep 16, 2021, 9:51 AM UTC

sofixa wrote: post #52

germandiago wrote: post #36

I am against regulations but I still find these practices anticompetitive. Not sure what the conclusion should be here. On one side this runs on Apple platform:"it is my platform, I rule it". On the other hand, they have a de-facto position to abuse by just kicking out companies at will to enlarge their businesses and monoplolize them... I wish there was choice beyond Apple and Android. I am myself starting to look f…

> I am against regulations but I still find these practices anticompetitive I really don't know how anyone can see this sort of crap and say they're against regulations. The market obviously isn't fixing itself, do you have any other solution?

Post by lenkite » Thu, Sep 16, 2021, 9:29 PM UTC

Damogran6 wrote: post #226

Sunspark wrote: post #219

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I would rather use an unsupported device that has the ability to do a variety of things than a supported device that doesn't allow various features which is the case with iOS for me. With Apple, it's their way or the highway.

So do the hackers and Zero Day Exploit day traders.

Post by Terretta » Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 5:30 PM UTC

jacquesm wrote: post #239

Terretta wrote: post #218

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> [Software] is not a device. Then what are you engineering? --- Edit to elaborate: I'm convinced this is the essence of the debate that has intensified as parts that move at the speed of light are devouring physical parts. Switch, transistor, if statement -- a maker should be able to convert one type of part to another type of part without losing their rights, or accidentally triggering a "oh, look, general computin…

Sorry, but you really can't just define some arbitrary alternative universe and then expect the debate to take place on your terms.

Post by windexh8er » Tue, Sep 28, 2021, 1:02 PM UTC

nextaccountic wrote: post #271

windexh8er wrote: post #176

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It's a good point, but consoles were single purpose computers. They exist to play games. Now, I'll agree that the line is blurred these days, but they're still generally gaming machines. Nobody is buying an XBox to stream Netflix solely. I think the difference is that Apple wants people to buy these devices as your primary computing device. Are you OK when Apple locks down the Mac line? What if you couldn't use Brew…

> Nobody is buying an XBox to stream Netflix solely. What if I want to? I don't particularly care what the manufacturer thinks, I bought the machine. Why does Microsoft gets a pass to dictate what I can do with the hardware I bought? See for example people that bought PS3s for operating distributed clusters (because at the time the console WAS open) and then Sony locked down other OSes with an update. Why is this fai…