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Re: China uses anti-fraud app to track access to overseas financial news sites

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Post by xxpor »

ashtonkem wrote: post #58
xxpor wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do they have the wherewithal to pull off a deliverable Teller-Ulam thermonuclear warhead, without doing any atmospheric testing? Does Japan even have SLBMs or bombers? It takes a lot more to be a credible nuclear threat than just having some U235 sitting around...

I can't speak to the delivery aspect, but I don't think you'd even need a Teller Ulam thermonuclear warhead to make a credible threat to a neighboring power. But the delivery aspect matters a lot, obviously.

> Teller Ulam thermonuclear warhead to make a credible threat to a neighboring power.

Granted, I haven't read a ton of analysis on this, but my guess would be that you do if you're going up against someone with their own thermonuclear bombs. If China drops some of their own thermonuclear weapons on Tokyo, what's Japan's response? Dropping a fission weapon? If they got to that level, I'm sure that would be considered an acceptable risk for China. The converse is also true. If Japan dropped the fission weapon first, they'd instantly have a bunch of thermonuclear warheads headed their way.

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Post by ddoolin »

tablespoon wrote: post #49
postingawayonhn wrote: post #36

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I think it is correct that prosperity will eventually bring democracy. Xi sees that too and is busy trying to knock China's wealthy citizens down a couple of notches.

>> I think it is correct that prosperity will eventually bring democracy. > Xi sees that too and is busy trying to knock China's wealthy citizens down a couple of notches. What do billionaire-wealthy citizens have to do with prosperity or democracy (besides the fantasies of pro-billionaire propaganda)?

Well, they did pick up Jack Ma for speaking out against gov't regulation (to put it simply). Celebrities in China, including the wealthy, have a lot of influence. Their "abductions" almost certainly are intertwined with keeping a grip on their power.

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Post by sersi »

causi wrote: post #34
sersi wrote: post #8

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I'd say there's a clear difference between what they were doing post Deng Xiaoping and what they've been doing since Xi Jinping came to power. It's much more worrying now. I remember 15-20 years ago, my friends in China had hope that eventually it would open up but there's no longer any hope there. The few friends who are still outspoken (and are much much more careful than they used to be) now have no hope of this w…

The difference is a turn in the tide of public opinion. The real battle, the one for the hearts and minds, has been won. Talk to almost any Chinese national who hasn't had a ton of international exposure, like a fresh international student. They either don't care about what the CCP is doing or they fully agree with the justifications.

I agree but to be fair, I do remember that a lot of fresh international undergrad students just arriving from China tended to be very patriotic and pro-CCP even back in early 2000s. The difference is that a lot of them changed their minds after a few years living in a different country.

I did notice back then that graduate students who had completed undergrad in China tended to be much less pro CCP and not buying that much into things. This does seem to have changed.

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Post by pphysch »

president wrote: post #52
trompetenaccoun wrote: post #4

What the CCP's been doing over the past couple of months is worrying. I wish there were a nicer explanation but it almost looks like they're preparing for war, or at least increasing confrontation.

It has escalated in the past few years but they've been preparing for decades. Last month, Chinese warships were spotted [1] near Alaska. I find it strange that these acts of aggression are not known by your average American citizen. [1] https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3148725/us-...

Until the Chinese have carriers perpetually parked in the Gulf of Mexico, they haven't even begun to reciprocate Washington's naval aggression in the South China Sea.

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Post by kesselvon »

xxpor wrote: post #55
ashtonkem wrote: post #25

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Japan’s policy has always been to keep highly enriched uranium on hand, which they could use to make nukes in relatively short order. It’s a backup plan in case America stops being the guarantor of Japanese safety against China.

Do they have the wherewithal to pull off a deliverable Teller-Ulam thermonuclear warhead, without doing any atmospheric testing? Does Japan even have SLBMs or bombers? It takes a lot more to be a credible nuclear threat than just having some U235 sitting around...

Nuclear weapons are a technology that is almost 100 years old, and is old enough for a country like North Korea to pull off.

It has a space program with rockets, a nuclear power sector, etc. It's the thing you do when you want all the pieces for a potential nuclear weapons program without signaling that you're looking to develop a nuclear weapons program.

I think the current contemporary estimate is that Japan could assemble a functioning nuke in 6-12 months.

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Post by colordrops »

ulzeraj wrote: post #46
colordrops wrote: post #41

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The goal of capitalism was never to concentrate wealth in the hands of a tiny minority, regardless of the ideology of the nation.

That makes no sense. Capitalism has no goal. Capitalism is the market and the market are people. You might not like the results but saying it is alive and has a goal sound exactly like conspiracy theorists who believe in NWO and the Illuminati.

What I meant was "the goal of regimes that implement capitalism was never to concentrate wealth".

Also I was saying what the goal wasn't.

Do you understand now?

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Post by esyir »

roenxi wrote: post #13
trompetenaccoun wrote: post #12

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I have friends and family in the Mainland. I've lived there myself for years. The CCP does not want peace, not sure where you're getting this from. First they'll take Taiwan at the first sign of American weakness (which may have happened already). Then they'll go for the rest of the world. It's not even a one party state anymore, it's been transformed into an outright totalitarian dictatorship under Xi. Absolute powe…

China is a superpower. The future is bleak for Taiwan. But India has nukes, Japan can probably produce nukes in short order, Korea is in a state of hyper-militarisation for unrelated reasons and the US, insofar as they are active in the region, have nukes. It doesn't matter what the CCP wants, they might get away with Taiwan but it is hard to see what the follow up would be where Shanghai still gets to have skyscrape…

The solution for Taiwan is obvious. Nuclearization.

The only way for a country of that size to resist a superpower is to ensure that that superpower loses their capital if they dare bite.

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Post by pphysch »

jeswin wrote: post #24
trompetenaccoun wrote: post #4

What the CCP's been doing over the past couple of months is worrying. I wish there were a nicer explanation but it almost looks like they're preparing for war, or at least increasing confrontation.

Indeed. In other CCP news, they forced a Colorado highschool to edit their website to say Taiwan is a province of China. The school complied, so that the kids could attend United Nations Commission on the Status of Women. [1] 1: https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-makes-sure-everyone-write...

For some perspective, this is still nothing compared to what the government of Israel has recently achieved in manipulating the American education system [1].

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-BDS_laws#Amawi_v._Pfluger...

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Post by petra »

kesselvon wrote: post #65
xxpor wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do they have the wherewithal to pull off a deliverable Teller-Ulam thermonuclear warhead, without doing any atmospheric testing? Does Japan even have SLBMs or bombers? It takes a lot more to be a credible nuclear threat than just having some U235 sitting around...

Nuclear weapons are a technology that is almost 100 years old, and is old enough for a country like North Korea to pull off. It has a space program with rockets, a nuclear power sector, etc. It's the thing you do when you want all the pieces for a potential nuclear weapons program without signaling that you're looking to develop a nuclear weapons program. I think the current contemporary estimate is that Japan could…

Isn't 6 to 12 months that ages in wartime ?

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Post by [deleted] »

jeswin wrote: post #24
trompetenaccoun wrote: post #4

What the CCP's been doing over the past couple of months is worrying. I wish there were a nicer explanation but it almost looks like they're preparing for war, or at least increasing confrontation.

Indeed. In other CCP news, they forced a Colorado highschool to edit their website to say Taiwan is a province of China. The school complied, so that the kids could attend United Nations Commission on the Status of Women. [1] 1: https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-makes-sure-everyone-write...

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