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Stripe banned us for payment disputes but we never had a single dispute

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Re: Stripe banned us for payment disputes but we never had a single dispute

#131
I had the same thing happen to our church. I do not believe this is an "Accident". You can read the blow by blow at https://www.jbschirtzinger.com/post/stripe/

You can see very clearly that I also thought this was an automated issue, but turned out not to be.

Re: Stripe banned us for payment disputes but we never had a single dispute

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post #17

I really feel for the author. We had once decided to participate in Stripe's Identity Verification beta. After submitting the form to request participation, Stripe's system locked our account pending verification. We were fortunate in that we had a backup payment gateway integration "just in case", because otherwise we would have been completely unable to accept any payments at all for a full week. That week was stil…

Could you email me at edwin@stripe.com and I can dig into what happened here?

Re: Stripe banned us for payment disputes but we never had a single dispute

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post #108

(Stripe cofounder.) Ugh, apologies. Something very clearly went wrong here and we’re already investigating. Zooming out, a few broader comments: * Unlike most services, Stripe can easily lose very large amounts of money on individual accounts, and thousands of people try to do so every day. We are de facto running a big bug bounty/incentive program for evading our fraudulent user detection systems. * Errors like thes…

This post reminds me of when the same thing happened to me about 5 weeks ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28085706

It feels like there should just be a better process. Shut down payments to protect yourselves sure, but spare a real life person to email the customer and give them a chance to explain or at least understand why.

Re: Stripe banned us for payment disputes but we never had a single dispute

#135
UPDATE from Justuseapp.com: Stripe has reached out to us and working together, we have resolved this issue and our account has been re-enabled.

I cannot thank Hacker News enough.

Running a business all these years has been hard and full of Ups and downs. I do not recommend it for the faint-hearted. Until this morning, I had almost given up hope that our business was dead.

Thanks for bringing us back from the dead HN.

Re: Stripe banned us for payment disputes but we never had a single dispute

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post #108

(Stripe cofounder.) Ugh, apologies. Something very clearly went wrong here and we’re already investigating. Zooming out, a few broader comments: * Unlike most services, Stripe can easily lose very large amounts of money on individual accounts, and thousands of people try to do so every day. We are de facto running a big bug bounty/incentive program for evading our fraudulent user detection systems. * Errors like thes…

please stay a startup, pc !!!

Re: Stripe banned us for payment disputes but we never had a single dispute

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post #108

(Stripe cofounder.) Ugh, apologies. Something very clearly went wrong here and we’re already investigating. Zooming out, a few broader comments: * Unlike most services, Stripe can easily lose very large amounts of money on individual accounts, and thousands of people try to do so every day. We are de facto running a big bug bounty/incentive program for evading our fraudulent user detection systems. * Errors like thes…

Your AI is the problem, not using stripe for any type of business.

Re: Stripe banned us for payment disputes but we never had a single dispute

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post #108

(Stripe cofounder.) Ugh, apologies. Something very clearly went wrong here and we’re already investigating. Zooming out, a few broader comments: * Unlike most services, Stripe can easily lose very large amounts of money on individual accounts, and thousands of people try to do so every day. We are de facto running a big bug bounty/incentive program for evading our fraudulent user detection systems. * Errors like thes…

What's your recommended way to get in touch with humans? Previously we had a manufacturing business + online store rejected because we mentioned that some of our customers may eventually be drop-shippers (i.e. an online store cannot prevent people from buying on behalf of other people) and there seemed to be no recourse other than "start a different business."

Re: Stripe banned us for payment disputes but we never had a single dispute

#139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, if I want to disrupt a competitor all I have to do is hire a bunch of darknet identify thieves and you'll shut down their merchant account?

Yes, if you’re willing to break the law and risk the consequences, you can get up to all sorts of stuff. Same as anything? Like, “So, if I want to disrupt a competitor, all I have to do is hire thugs to smash all their stuff?” Yeah, that’d do it. Good luck.

You’d need to come close to 1% in total charges. That’s roughly what Visa and MasterCard set as limits. This would work with anyone who accepts credit cards, not just Stripe customers.

Re: Stripe banned us for payment disputes but we never had a single dispute

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post #68

As someone with a pre-launch SaaS who just signed up for Stripe, reading this has me shook up a little bit. I'm Stripe-integrated for payments, and poised to go through Stripe Atlas soon, or at least I was.. Now I have no idea what to do. I know that OP's story isn't spotless, but what if it's my thing that gets in this situation too? I wish I could say I'm joking but I don't need this right now, I'm ~90 days out fro…

I'm really sorry that this has caused you concern—if you'd like to chat more before launch, please email me at edwin@stripe.com.
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