Times Investigation: In U.S. Drone Strike, Evidence Suggests No Isis Bomb
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#2Maybe those who are most vocal in denouncing extremists everywhere are in fact themselves the most dangerous extremists around.
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#3Usually, the path when such revelations comes out is to pillory the messenger as traitors and spies. So who do we blame and shame for this one? Where's the two minute hates about whoever it was revealed their government's latest mis-steps?
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#4Before the event, I commented[1] on the military claiming they could hit back with "overwhelming force" if anyone attacked them:
> is it actually feasible for the U.S. military to hit back with "overwhelming force"?
> The answer to that is a solid "NO!"
> To hit back with "overwhelming force", they need to figure out what they are going hit.
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> either the U.S. would have to hit Taliban forces that are now dispersed through Kabul thereby killing a whole lot of innocents or they would have to try to go after the leadership. Where are they going to find them? If they are in densely populated in Kabul and they drop a MOAB on them, who's going to be accountable for the civilian lives lost? Besides, neither of this would stop the slaughter at the airport: It would just add to the physical and propaganda victories of the Taliban.
Clearly, I had not imagined them bringing up ISK to distract from the fact that they are dealing with the Taliban, but the notion that they could effectively fight a threat mingled with the population of a large, chaotic city where they had no actual eyes on the ground was a farce. They killed this guy and the little children just so they could look like they were doing something.
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#5Before the event, I commented[1] on the military claiming they could hit back with "overwhelming force" if anyone attacked them: > is it actually feasible for the U.S. military to hit back with "overwhelming force"? > The answer to that is a solid "NO!" > To hit back with "overwhelming force", they need to figure out what they are going hit. ... > either the U.S. would have to hit Taliban forces that are now disperse…
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#6I’m so tired of these stories.
Yes, it’s horrible. I’ll be outraged for an evening.
But what can I ultimately do against the bloodthirsty behemoth that is the US government?
If it’s something like Amazon I can choose not to give them my money. But if I’m disillusioned with the entire way one (or maybe all) of the largest countries on the earth operate, what can I do?
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#7I’m so tired of these stories. Yes, it’s horrible. I’ll be outraged for an evening. But what can I ultimately do against the bloodthirsty behemoth that is the US government? If it’s something like Amazon I can choose not to give them my money. But if I’m disillusioned with the entire way one (or maybe all) of the largest countries on the earth operate, what can I do?
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#8I’m so tired of these stories. Yes, it’s horrible. I’ll be outraged for an evening. But what can I ultimately do against the bloodthirsty behemoth that is the US government? If it’s something like Amazon I can choose not to give them my money. But if I’m disillusioned with the entire way one (or maybe all) of the largest countries on the earth operate, what can I do?
Move to a small well run country?
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#9I’m so tired of these stories. Yes, it’s horrible. I’ll be outraged for an evening. But what can I ultimately do against the bloodthirsty behemoth that is the US government? If it’s something like Amazon I can choose not to give them my money. But if I’m disillusioned with the entire way one (or maybe all) of the largest countries on the earth operate, what can I do?
Move to a small well run country?
I moved to Japan. Well run is a fair stretch, but at least there’s basically zero chance of them dropping a hellfire missile on anyone’s head (even their actual enemies).
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#10The majority of those who were killed in the actual airport attack were shot by US soldiers, who in confusion and panic fired indiscriminately into the fleeing crowd. This is by the words of several of those who were present and whom investigated the injuries on the bodies afterwards, as interviewed by bbc reporters. The crowd was packed, and bullet wounds were on the top if their bodies (the soldiers shot them from the towers).
In fact, estimates say about 200 people died in total. But evidence also suggests the bomb may have killed only a few dozen.