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Same time we hardly pay that per year for k-12. Shows how messed up our priorities are.
School aged kids and teenagers also require a lot less individual care and attention
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Definitely can happen in Arkansas. BUT, it will not be indefinitely, it will be when the insurance money/mom and dad's bank account runs out.
Doesn't really seem like this is correct. https://law.justia.com/codes/arkansas/2018/title-20/subtitle... > (a) An individual with a behavioral health impairment who is admitted to a psychiatric emergency service under a crisis intervention protocol under this subchapter shall have a final disposition within a maximum of seventy-two (72) hours or be released from custody. > (b) If the individual with a behavioral hea…
“Stabilized” indeed… (rolls eyes completely around head.)
The drugging in those places is an obscenity. If you're going to do that, you should be intentionally shortening people's lives with opiates, which at least is a lot more pleasant than getting loaded up with anti-psychotics to make people compliant. Unfortunately, the jig is generally up with that - everyone knows what opiates do. I'm seeing a lot of bullshit on all these threads from people who are doing the whole "…
> That's 24 hour home care - and it's not cheap Why don't they just eat cake? This is the good end of the spectrum. The other end is that the patient lives alone, soils his clothes and doesn't change them for months/ gets lost and becomes homeless, gets infected and dies an animals death. Most of the patients live closer to the bad end.
First of all, a lot of the grandiose claims here about how "if I was demented I would just get myself put down" are coming from tech people who could afford this end of the spectrum.
Second, 24 hour home care - or 'family care plus a certain amount of professional relief' is, while expensive, not much more expensive than medicalized fulltime care in a lot of facilities. You're not paying the overheads of a bunch of salaries and potentially the profit margin.
At the lowest end of the spectrum, things are indeed terrible. Aside from fairly extreme small government people, I think most people would want the state to step in. A lot of the places that are over-medicating their patients are collecting vast amounts of subsidies and pocketing the improved profits that come from getting to run staffing levels as low as they can get away with.
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> some teachers (maybe even the majority) do make carefully considered decisions In the United States, teachers do not prescribe medications. They may make a recommendation that parents seek the guidance of a doctor, and a qualified medical professional (usually a psychiatrist) will diagnose the child, and the parent may choose to pursue medicating or not. In our case, we had regular checkup appointments with a psych…
Ritalin absolutely is a controlled substance in Australia and requires a psychiatrist or paediatrician to prescribe it. I've never heard of a GP prescribing it (unless they're also appropriately qualified as one of the above).
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Step 1) fabricate an SMS Step 2) call police Step 3) enjoy Wow so easy to take down your political enemies huh
In Soviet Russia, government officials would remove someone, and then claim suicide. In America, they first claim suicide (risk), then remove them.
Political abuse of psychiatry in Soviet Union has its own Wikipedia page.
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Step 1) fabricate an SMS Step 2) call police Step 3) enjoy Wow so easy to take down your political enemies huh
In Soviet Russia, government officials would remove someone, and then claim suicide. In America, they first claim suicide (risk), then remove them.
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> it's an open secret in that industry that Ritalin and other behavioural drugs are administered for the benefit of the teacher and other students in the class - not necessarily for the child receiving it. Not necessarily does not mean never, so be careful of a claim like that, and maybe back it up. I have a daughter, now an adult, which Ritalin and/or Adderall provided real benefit. The only thing in question was ho…
>Not necessarily does not mean never, so be careful of a claim like that, and maybe back it up. That's definitely correct. It can be a great help for some children, and some teachers (maybe even the majority) do make carefully considered decisions where the primary concern is for the welfare of the child receiving the drugs. Other times, though, they just want some ratbag kid to STFU so they can get on with their job…
It makes me sad to read comments like this.
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All the while I can drive 15 min and find thousands of obviously mentally ill people in need of involuntary mental health treatment (the type perhaps not even available at this point in the US) wandering around and the police cannot do anything about it because their only avenue for detaining them is to wait until they catch them committing a crime. And even then they are shortly released onto their own recognizance…
Keep in mind that the involuntary commitment system that was largely dismantled in the 80s was a hotbed of abuse - both of the people committed to it, and of the reasons for which people would get committed to it. Falling out with your business partner? Want to get rid of your wife, so you can move in with your mistress? Your kid came out gay, or atheist? Dad has money, and you don't want to wait for him to die? Invo…