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People are dumb, specially the tech community. I've been watching for at least 10 years how everyone switched to chrome because it's faster. Now we have one mega corporation in charge of both most of the search and most of the browser usage. That's literally controlling the internet. And you made it happen by your choices.
People are dumb or certain companies are smart?
Why Firefox has been in decline for 12 years
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Re: Why Firefox has been in decline for 12 years
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I don't really have any comments on that, sorry. I was mentioning a fix for that specific issue, or other specific issues you might have with other browsers. Most complaints I see about Firefox tend to be about specific issues rather than about overall decisions made versus their competitors.
The problem isn't any single one decision. It is a pattern of making changes that cause users don't like and ignoring negative feedback.
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I don't mean about:config, I mean editing the CSS directly. Yes an update could break your CSS fix, but if you follow the beta releases then this isn't a problem. You usually have at least a few weeks to update your patches before the release goes out.
You have to change a setting in about:config to enable custom css. Unless you mean making a custom build of Firefox, which is even more difficult to do.
Re: Why Firefox has been in decline for 12 years
#314The last straw for me was the proton update. I updated on mobile, it was faster, I liked that, the UI was interesting, and then I went to install my usual add ons. No dice. "We are only allowing select add ons, most people don't use add ons anyway." Fuck. That. I raged out and removed Firefox from all of my devices.
They shortly afterward backpedaled and said it was temporary. There was no technical reason for it though.
I now use various chromium forks that have features I need and don't talk to google. Currently that's ungoogled-chromium, Bromite and Kiwi Browser, for it's extension support. If Bromite merges extension support in from Kiwi I'll stop using kiwi.
Re: Why Firefox has been in decline for 12 years
#315There's a theory in the Free Software community that BigTech sponsorship of Mozilla was intended to bring about the current state of affairs. The idea is that MS, Google, and others really have no reason to donate to a direct competitor. Perhaps they did so because they knew it would give them control. That control was exercised over the years and now Mozilla is more a social justice advocacy organization than a foun…
Well, once upon a time, Microsoft invested quite a bit of money in Apple to keep them alive. Allegedly, they did this so they could tell the DoJ with a straight face that they were not a monopolist, after all they had a competitor. I would not be surprised if Google's support for Mozilla is based on similar reasoning.
This is not what happened. Microsoft was involved in a lawsuit after paying one of Apple contractors to steal QuickTime code. "investing" in Apple was part of the settlement.
https://www.theregister.com/1998/10/29/microsoft_paid_apple_...
Re: Why Firefox has been in decline for 12 years
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I switched from Firefox on Android to Brave. Not because I like Brave, but because I disliked the new UI in Firefox. Brave also had much better performance for JavaScript and CSS animations.
Brave is a decent browser but I won't use anything from Brendan Eich. I also don't really agree with their BAT token stuff. I just want adtech to die at this stage, not to find an alternative model. Direct payments to sites I do support however and I'm a member of several. I guess both opinions aren't popular :) But that's my reasons to use Firefox despite not being fully happy with it.
Very arguable that Eich's single handedly more responsible for javascript than Brave, engineering wise.
I'm not a crypto fan, or of adtech, but BAT is atleast a functional solution to directly supporting sites.
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You can remove the spacers with 3 clicks.
Until you can't, because Mozilla deems that only X% of users use that feature and maintaining its configurability consumes too much organizational resources. First the GUI to edit the GUI disappears, then the about:config option follows later. That's what's been steadily happening. Less and less customizability for power users, more and more streamlining for new users.
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#318Firefox (née Mozilla) is a terribly mismanaged company. Instead of focusing on their core business, making a great browser, they keep launching weird also-ran side projects that inevitably fail, to name a few:
Firefox VPN, Firefox Notes, Firefox Lockwise, Firefox Monitor, Firefox Send, Firefox Hello, Firefox OS, Mozilla Persona, etc.
It’s one thing to fritter away your fortunes and engineering talent on fun side projects when the main business (and money-maker) is doing well, but to do so when it’s floundering is massively irresponsible.
Baker & co. are making off like bandits, paying themselves lavish salaries while running the company into the ground. Unfortunately, there’s no Firefox stock holders that can sue them for mismanagement.
So as the Google/Apple browser duopoly is slowly cemented, we can only blame Mozilla management for destroying the only truly open and independent browser left.
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> Firefox is a product strangely hostile to its core userbase. It's almost like they've been deliberately trying to sabotage themselves for years. Easily explainable Mozilla been captured by "aspirational" MBA types who think they don't really need that userbase, instead they want to chase "what big boys do", and copy lame features in hopes that monkeying Apple will score them iDevices users — the type of people they…
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