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Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by reissbaker »

pygar wrote: post #100

This is undoubtedly cool but I'm curious to know of a use case that would warrant installing this. Could this just have been a step in creating "Windows Subsystem for Android" [0] that they decided to release as its own layer? The screenshot on the github page shows VSCode, Edge, Blender, Xcalc, Xclock and GNOME file manager which are all either available natively on windows or redundant. [0] https://www.xda-develope…

WSLg doesn't seem to have much overlap with Windows Subsystem for Android (although WSL itself does). Android doesn't use Wayland, or generally any of the GUI stack that desktop Linux does.

Pretty sure the point of the WSL and WSLg projects are to lure developers who would otherwise use macOS. After all, your local environment is likely even closer to production using WSL than it is on the BSD-derived macOS userland and Darwin kernel. Actually, early on in its life macOS (poorly) supported X11 apps using XQuartz as a similar lure.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by lobocinza »

NavinF wrote: post #334
raman162 wrote: post #323

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's missing from the Linux Desktop experience for you? I currently use all three operating systems on a weekly basis, Ubuntu with i3 (a window tiling manager) is my daily driver. Everytime I switch to windows or Mac os, it always feels like a downgrade for me because I can't replicate the tiling experience. The one thing I love about mac, is the trackpad experience, I wish windows and Linux could get to that level…

1. Update glibc and everything breaks 2. Update Nvidia drivers and everything breaks 3. 99% of laptops have at least one device with missing or broken drivers. 802.11ac is very old in 2021, but the most popular ac chips still need an out-of-tree driver which will break when you update your kernel. Have fun copying kernel patches from random forums 4. Even the smallest of changes (ex: set display scaling to something…

1. My experience with Windows 10 is that there's a considerable chance that it will break after an update and refuse to boot requiring me to reinstall it. With Linux even when using bleeding edge Arch things rarely break and when they do I can see WHY and then FIX it.

2. Not a problem with AMD at least.

3. Mileage may vary

4. Ubuntu is a joke. Try Manjaro.

5. Learning curve is steep but you install Gnome or KDE and have a proper desktop environment that don't get in your way or show ads without touching a single configuration file.

6. Mileage may vary but most distros are Debian, Arch or Fedora based and environments are not that fragmented as you make it sound. Also there is Flatpak and others as an alternative for building and distributing desktop applications.

7. I'm playing games with decent performance on a GPU that was released on last month. Also it's only crappy if doesn't get the job done and is good that the community cares for long term support better than this trend of disposable software and planned obsolescence.

8. Never had this problem.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by lobocinza »

NavinF wrote: post #401
Fnoord wrote: post #360

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1) This should not occur. You do not update glibc on a stable desktop environment. If you use rolling release distributions, yes shit will hit the fan (even though proponents/fans of such will deny such 'ever happening to their X years of Arch or w/e usage). 2) Don't use Nvidia; use AMD or Intel with FOSS drivers. I know this sucks if you don't have the option (its a package deal, or you already bought it). (I've onl…

1. Yeah it "should not" happen yet I've experienced it on a relatively sane distro. Btw "Update glibc and everything breaks" is a quote from Linus Torvalds. He's a newcomer on this scene, but he makes some good points: https://youtu.be/5PmHRSeA2c8?t=588 2. No thanks. I'll stick with my RTX 3090 for my personal desktop and 2x2080Ti for each of my servers. We both wish there was another vendor that supported tensorflow…

If you are going to cite a joke, cite this: Windows, you do anything and the screen go blue. Problems exist and they need be addressed but Linux did not stop at time and the scenario is not the same as it was at 7 years ago.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by CallMeJim »

In Windows 11 + WSL2 + Google Drive Sync, you can cd into Google Drive at /mnt/g and use it like a normal directory.

I'm not sure when this became the case; it wasn't possible 6 months ago with Windows 10 + WSL2 + Google Drive File Stream.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by BenjiWiebe »

vermaden wrote: post #302

If the host system is Linux then this can be called Windows Subsystem for Linux (the same thing that WINE does). If the host system is Windows then its Linux Subsystem for Windows. Please do not fuck with logic.

Windows (subsystem for Linux) i.e. a subsystem of Windows that is for Linux. I think.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by therein »

ziml77 wrote: post #107
therein wrote: post #93

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Keeps switching between different outputs in games and no matter what I do with the default communication device etc. it keeps happening. I lose audio in games on random intervals and I don't get it back until I switch my output device to something else and back. Used to happen only in Warzone but now I'm noticing it affects games with other engines as well. Granted I have a very non-standard setup but it shouldn't b…

Does Windows think that audio devices are being connected or disconnected? That's the only time I've had the default device switch on me. Annoyingly it can end up happening if you have a display that presents itself as an audio endpoint and then that display is turned off or even just goes to sleep.

Interesting perspective. I had always blamed it on something pertaining to my VFIO setup but I think you are pointing out something that might be at play here that I hadn't considered before.

I'll disable the speakers on the monitor from the HW menu on the monitor and see if that helps.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by mickotron »

nanna wrote: post #337
raman162 wrote: post #323

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's missing from the Linux Desktop experience for you? I currently use all three operating systems on a weekly basis, Ubuntu with i3 (a window tiling manager) is my daily driver. Everytime I switch to windows or Mac os, it always feels like a downgrade for me because I can't replicate the tiling experience. The one thing I love about mac, is the trackpad experience, I wish windows and Linux could get to that level…

Microsoft Word. That's literally the only thing which stops me from installing Windows on all of my friend's and family's aging laptops. LibreOffice just isn't capable of 100% replicating the formatting of a docx generated by Word, which for most people is a deal-breaker. (For me it's not, but for non-techie associates it is.) I just don't understand why there's not more pressure on MS to port Office to Linux in exch…

I really do not want MS office anywhere near my Linux machine.

I wish that Microsoft's products fully supported open document formats and standards.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by nailer »

kaba0 wrote: post #307
nailer wrote: post #292

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Every single person who has ever claimed Linux runs flawlessly on a piece of hardware has had some flaws. I include myself here - I once bought a laptop with entirely OSS mainline kernel supported hardware and compositing didn’t work on external displays. 99% hardware support isn’t good enough. I want to make new software not troubleshoot other people’s.

Thinkpads generally work perfectly. Also, windows hardly has even 99% compatibility with hardware. There is hardware that behaves better under linux than windows as well.

I have a colleague that uses Linux with a thinkpad, he was the person that made me think of my comment. Linux works perfectly but then starting Citrix causes a weird perpetually zooming effect on his external display.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by reissbaker »

nickjj wrote: post #355
reissbaker wrote: post #349

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I could never get VcXsrv to work with DPI scaling well. So many hacks upon hacks...

That's fair enough. I have a 2560x1440 display but I run it at 1:1 native scaling, everything updates quickly with no flickering or tearing. I've found in general using display scaling anywhere is always a questionable experience since not every app is developed to take advantage of it.

That's doable on 1440p, but IMO it's a dealbreaker on 4k.
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