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Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by flexer2 »

Briq7 wrote: post #83
smichel17 wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which apps? Not that it makes a difference for this conversation, but I'm interested in keeping up to date with what the "killer apps" are that keep people from switching.

I just recently switch from windows to linux. Was planning to do some 3D printing tomorrow, but saw that Fusion360 had poor Wine support. So I probably need to learn a new software or setup a VM or something.

Fusion360 is the only thing I run a VM for. There’s a repo out there that sets up wine and installs it but it just doesn’t work very well at all. I’m using VMWare Player and set up the virtual disk to boot from the Windows drive and run it that way. It works really well. Other 3D printing stuff like PrusaSlicer works great on Linux. I’d love to have a native version of Fusion though. Maybe someday.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by tmccrary55 »

lowtto wrote: post #11

WSL2 is essentially just.. Windows + Linux. I tried it and it is awesome. Cannot wait to see further progress that comes out of this. I really cannot leave Windows to be honest. The network effect is too strong. Coupled with recent Microsoft effort such as Visual Code, its looking like they are doing nothing but going towards the better direction than the old days. Who would have thought. Would you believe it if anyo…

"awesome"

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

ubercow13 wrote: post #4
phkahler wrote: post #2

>> Weston is the Wayland project reference compositor and the heart of WSLg. For WSLg, we've extended the existing RDP backend of libweston to teach it how to remote applications rather than monitor/desktop. We've also added various functionality to it, such as support for multi-monitor, cut/paste, audio in/out, etc... Did they push those changes upstream? This seems like it could be another way to run GUI apps in co…

You can already run GUI apps in containers using pure wayland, just bind the socket into the container.

Likewise X, if you pass it the socket (although there are caveats around everything but just X11, like audio, which have to be routed out separately)

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by phendrenad2 »

smartmic wrote: post #75

This can never be the best GNU/Linux experience because you leave up your freedom and privacy at the door of the Windows login. Anyone who is serious about the future of openess, freedom and privacy rights in software and general should strive for the original. I advocate not to hand over MS the control over the Linux desktop.

Correction: This can never be the best GNU/Linux experience for people who feel the same as you do, that your privacy is highly-valuable and Windows takes some of it away.

I don't agree with those feelings, so it is indeed the best GNU/Linux experience for me.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

#106

Post by phendrenad2 »

reilly3000 wrote: post #31

I wonder what Linux exclusive software they are hoping to support. Everything I use in my Ubuntu daily driver has a Windows build or corollary app. I get how ‘you never have to leave Windows’ is a nice thing for their business, but I don’t see this being a reason I would stop dual-booting. The only reason I run windows in the first place is for a few apps, mostly games. Otherwise I really enjoy the bloat-free, ad-fre…

I think it's mostly a "because they can". WSL is a no-brainer because developers are used to Unix shells and most programming languages are Unix-first, Windows-maybe. But WSLg feels like a weird experiment with no purpose.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by ziml77 »

therein wrote: post #93
owalt wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> don't get me started on windows settings or audio I'll bite - what's wrong with the audio? Friends on mine in game dev often complain Linux audio is hopeless to work with.

Keeps switching between different outputs in games and no matter what I do with the default communication device etc. it keeps happening. I lose audio in games on random intervals and I don't get it back until I switch my output device to something else and back. Used to happen only in Warzone but now I'm noticing it affects games with other engines as well. Granted I have a very non-standard setup but it shouldn't b…

Does Windows think that audio devices are being connected or disconnected? That's the only time I've had the default device switch on me. Annoyingly it can end up happening if you have a display that presents itself as an audio endpoint and then that display is turned off or even just goes to sleep.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

#108

Post by p_j_w »

cybernautique wrote: post #18
avodonosov wrote: post #13

I already asked this in the past, and want to ask again. Is Microsoft a corporation of goodness now?

In my opinion, this is actually a question of values. My position: absolutely not, but I take it as axiomatic that Microsoft (et al.) are incapable of any actual "good." This is simply Window's attempt to build a new walled garden. If they were actually serious about advancing the state of civil computing, they'd make the NT core available as a microkernel that can be modularly placed into the Linux ecosystem. That i…

I'm of a similar opinion. If they want to prove that they heart Linux, that's what they're going to have to do. Or, at the very least, document everything (including DX) so that the Wine devs can do their thing even if MS don't care to help. Until then, "MS <3 Linux" is nothing more than PR speak in my mind.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by azalemeth »

smartmic wrote: post #75

This can never be the best GNU/Linux experience because you leave up your freedom and privacy at the door of the Windows login. Anyone who is serious about the future of openess, freedom and privacy rights in software and general should strive for the original. I advocate not to hand over MS the control over the Linux desktop.

I also wonder if this is the end of the "embrace" phase or the start of the "extend" one.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by rocqua »

wyldfire wrote: post #38
lowtto wrote: post #11

WSL2 is essentially just.. Windows + Linux. I tried it and it is awesome. Cannot wait to see further progress that comes out of this. I really cannot leave Windows to be honest. The network effect is too strong. Coupled with recent Microsoft effort such as Visual Code, its looking like they are doing nothing but going towards the better direction than the old days. Who would have thought. Would you believe it if anyo…

> I really cannot leave Windows to be honest. The network effect is too strong. I suspect whatever's keeping you on Windows isn't really the network effect. It's usually: comfort level/personal preference, or a set of software that vendor(s) can't/won't port to another non-Windows platform. The fact that so many applications have been rewritten as browser-accessible services has liberated me. I haven't owned a system…

Don't forget corporate policy. I would do all of my work on linux except I am barely allowed.

Tools like teams and outlook are also just not as good on Linux, and really important for work.

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