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Re: Facebook Censored Me For Mentioning Open-Source Social Network Mastodon

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Post by judge2020 »

silisili wrote: post #38
mikeytown2 wrote: post #22

https://joinmastodon.org/ Might as well see what FB is scared about

So, seems mastodon is fragmented or segmented into many independent networks. Do those interact with each other in any way? I'd hate to join one and miss truly interesting content on another...is it possible to distill multiple into one on the user end? Just asking, as I've never tried it before and the concept seems a little confusing.

Yes, on mastodon you can follow @someone@anothermastodon.local even if you are on firstmastodon.local, and the server running your instance will phone out to anothermastodon.local to retrieve posts from the person you follow.

Re: Facebook Censored Me For Mentioning Open-Source Social Network Mastodon

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Post by dredmorbius »

ineedasername wrote: post #32

Interesting how "because COVID" has become the thinly veiled excuse here. A similar manifestation of the "think of the children" trope that can be used to manipulate emotions and shut down dissent.

This seems to be a wildly incongrous conclusion based on a clear indication that a global pandemic is impacting operational efficacy and staffing levels. Not that it's an excuse or justification for blanket censorship.

Re: Facebook Censored Me For Mentioning Open-Source Social Network Mastodon

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Post by judge2020 »

ipaddr wrote: post #25
ineedasername wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure it's worse than misinformation. In my field, bad data often has a more damaging impact than no data . But I suppose it will depend on the circumstances, and I'd honestly be interested to hear your thoughts on why censorship is worse. As for the inevitability of abuse? When it comes to corporate interests, that seems to be nearly axiomatic. The Verge's list of fascinating & horrifying exchange at Apple ab…

Bad data vs no data at all? I would think no data would put you out of a job while bad data would require more hires to filter the data.

Bad data is often taken as good data, because sifting through it incurs 100x more friction than taking it at face value. When you ultimately get bad results you can just blame the bad data, and you still end up with a paycheck for the month(s) you wasted.

Re: Facebook Censored Me For Mentioning Open-Source Social Network Mastodon

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Post by xondono »

silisili wrote: post #38
mikeytown2 wrote: post #22

https://joinmastodon.org/ Might as well see what FB is scared about

So, seems mastodon is fragmented or segmented into many independent networks. Do those interact with each other in any way? I'd hate to join one and miss truly interesting content on another...is it possible to distill multiple into one on the user end? Just asking, as I've never tried it before and the concept seems a little confusing.

They are independent but federated.

The best example of how it works would be email. You can set up your own email server, and interact with other independent email servers seamlessly, or just find a provider you trust and get your email access from them.

Re: Facebook Censored Me For Mentioning Open-Source Social Network Mastodon

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Post by lrem »

david_allison wrote: post #21
tyingq wrote: post #14

This part is interesting... "We have fewer reviewers available right now because of the coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak..." That smells fishy. Seems like a job that would be a really good fit for work-from-home. Wouldn't you then have more reviewers available? Or maybe the exposure to graphic content means they do this in the office?

I believe that using the line 'our lines are busy right now' cuts down on complaints. I assume this was A/B tested and found that it has the same effect. Until very recently, Google Play also had a similar notice without mentioning COVID when an app was in for review.

Frankly: Google is only now-ish regaining the balance from the hiring slowdown COVID brought. It isn't far-fetched that some team went short-staffed until recently. And then, updating notices was not their top priority.

Re: Facebook Censored Me For Mentioning Open-Source Social Network Mastodon

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Post by dustymcp »

pope_meat wrote: post #12

I'm fighting Facebook by not participating. I implore the rest of you to do the same. As we leave, the folks remaining will have less reasons to stay. A trickle can turn in to a torrent. Don't worry about an alternative even, we'll find something new when we do, until then, a bit of a detox from the feed will do us good.

Did that a long time ago cant recommend it enough, you have a calendar to keep up with birthdays..

Re: Facebook Censored Me For Mentioning Open-Source Social Network Mastodon

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Post by ineedasername »

mikeytown2 wrote: post #22

https://joinmastodon.org/ Might as well see what FB is scared about

If I used social networks, I might give it a try. (I did actually check it out though) But all social media networks seem anti-productive to me and, well, just not actually very social.

With respect to connecting with family & friends, I'd much prefer a pure platform based pretty much on just that.

With respect to other people with interesting things to say, I'd prefer blogs aggregating & curated sites like, well, HN itself.

For the former, I don't know how you get to a "pure" platform like that where you can communicate & share experiences/photos with each other without also letting meme-ish "lol this person of is an idiot"> posts through, but at the very least it could avoid surfacing them algorithmically and rewarding them with "internet points".

Re: Facebook Censored Me For Mentioning Open-Source Social Network Mastodon

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Post by Ekaros »

NoblePublius wrote: post #31
tyingq wrote: post #14

This part is interesting... "We have fewer reviewers available right now because of the coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak..." That smells fishy. Seems like a job that would be a really good fit for work-from-home. Wouldn't you then have more reviewers available? Or maybe the exposure to graphic content means they do this in the office?

The biggest unreported scandal in big tech is the 100s of 1000s of contractors that work exclusively for these companies. Accenture provides thousands of content moderators to FB, none of whom have any recourse to FB HR or rights to pursue union status at FB. Google is the same.

Why should they have right to pursue union status at FB? They should do that with whatever company is employing them and if there is that many it might even be realistic.

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Post by chmod600 »

ineedasername wrote: post #13
chmod600 wrote: post #4

Censorship is always abused. Maybe this time or maybe not. But it's always abused. And yes, it's worse than misinformation.

I'm not sure it's worse than misinformation. In my field, bad data often has a more damaging impact than no data . But I suppose it will depend on the circumstances, and I'd honestly be interested to hear your thoughts on why censorship is worse. As for the inevitability of abuse? When it comes to corporate interests, that seems to be nearly axiomatic. The Verge's list of fascinating & horrifying exchange at Apple ab…

Censorship is bad data, because it is selectively excluded data.

If gamma rays randomly excluded one post in a thousand, that would be mussing data. Censors excluding one post in ten thousand is worrying because they have motivations of their own, which gamma rays do not.

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