September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time • Hacker News Board

Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

#141

Post by bellyfullofbac » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 5:49 PM UTC

zrail wrote: post #52

dragonwriter wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This might seem strange to some younger readers, but remember in 01-02 internet video (and, indeed, internet faster than dial-up) was not ubiquitous. And even if you used internet video (or, heck, even read news online), none of the sources (origins sites and Google and other portals) had the capacity to deal well with the major surge of associated with a event like 9/11. Everything online was spotty or broken unde…

I remember getting dismissed from school early and going to a friends house and trying to find news. The only site we could find that was actually responding was Slashdot, which went to text-only for the day and a few days following. Edit: the metafilter thread gives a horrific moment-by-moment update stream if that's something you want to read: https://www.metafilter.com/10034/Plane-crashes-in-to-the-wor...

All news sites were down, I remember thinking it was before dawn for Australians, so I tried one of their news sites, and it worked...

Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

#142

Post by polytely » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 5:49 PM UTC

tommymachine wrote: post #138

polytely wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes of course, just make your point already, this is not a chat, try to write a complete post.

So you're not winning the argument to take away my medical freedom, so now you want to tell me how I'm supposed to post on here? Addicted to tyranny much?

>So you're not winning the argument to take away my medical freedom

That wasn't what I was trying to do at all, and I can't really see how you could get that from my initial reply, so I don't think we are going to agree on anything here, have a nice day.

Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

#143

Post by tommymachine » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 5:49 PM UTC

Really cool resource. Small nit: the time in the upper right hand corner being off by an hour is killing me (not literally).

Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

#144

Post by danlugo92 » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 5:50 PM UTC

humanistbot wrote: post #113

Is it just me or are all the channels broken with just old-school TV static? Maybe the server is overloaded with the HN & reddit hug of death.

Probably overloaded. One of the channels had signal for a few seconds for me.

Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

#145

Post by PrimeDirective » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 5:52 PM UTC

This needs to be archived but I have no interest in rewatching it. That day, I was a 14 year old kid across the ocean. I had just gotten home from school and was watching my favorite youth program when the guy said there has been a plane crash in NYC. I switched to CNN (or maybe Euronews?) and saw the first tower burning. Then, on live TV, on the other side of Atlantic, I watched as the second plane crashed into the second tower and later how the towers came down. Writing this brings tears into my eyes.

Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

#146

Post by Datagenerator » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 5:53 PM UTC

The resulting war took many more human lives [1] including children who couldn't handle the White phosphorus munitions the US military targeted them with. 1) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War

Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

#147

Post by ithinkso » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 5:54 PM UTC

Besides the whole 9/11 thing, if you have 'showdead' set, you see the spam 'bot' in this thread. I always wonder if it's really a bot or someone with a lot of time to waste but let's assume it's someone real... do you know what their end game is? It can't be propaganda because it's clearly a spam and no one read those. Also, not many people respond to spam so I don't think 'dopamine hit' is a part of it.

Confusing

Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

#148

Post by bellyfullofbac » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 5:54 PM UTC

teawrecks wrote: post #112

rebuilder wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not sure at all the pandemic is going to be more significant historically. The 9/11 attacks did what Al-Qaeda intended them to - got the USA mired in an expensive, unwinnable war, which ultimately broke the US will to fight and seems to have resulted in a major reconfiguration of US foreign policy.

I believe a lot of the phenomena we see today, rampant conspiracies, misinformation, distrust in govt, political divisiveness, willingness to support a demagogue, rise in nationalism and domestic terrorism, can all be linked back to 9/11. The goal of the attack was to strike fear into the hearts of Americans on a level that we simply couldn't comprehend, a lasting fear that fundamentally changes our society, a fear t…

All those things you write in the 1st paragraph, I wonder if it's 9/11 or the continued spread of Internet access. Previously if you thought the earth was flat, your friends in school or work would laugh at you. Nowadays you can google anything and find a community totally into that idea, and they are indeed communities because they'll quickly indoctrinate that the rest of society/big government/the secret elite cabal are prosecuting them for their beliefs, so they'd have to support each other..

Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

#149

Post by mannanj » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 5:54 PM UTC

HWR_14 wrote: post #139

pbourke wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think the pandemic has far more historical significance I’m not sure about that. Without 9/11, there would be no wars, perhaps no Obama, etc. It altered the arc of history in a profound way. The recent Frontline episode “America after 9/11”[0] draws a through-line from 9/11 to the events of Jan 6 at the U.S. Capitol. [0] https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/america-after-9-11/

It's a little disingenuous to use 20 years of history to say it's a more significant event and then using the follow on results. In another 18.5 years, people could be talking about how the pandemic triggered the second US Civil War, or led to a complete reimagination of US race relations, or ushered in a communist takeover or something.

How are you supposed to figure out if an event is significant or not without looking at its historical significance on the years to come?

Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

#150

Post by lmilcin » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 5:55 PM UTC

AndrewUnmuted wrote: post #40

What is the rationale for this kind of thing? What motivates a person to construct such a strange relic to 9/11 like this? And how come, after doing so, did the creator fail to make any sort of reasonable points about the event? This feels like some sort of opportunistic resume-building kind of project, made from the very real deaths of thousands of innocent people. And not one mention was made about the US's horrifi…

I think it is public service to show historical events from a different perspective.

Reading about something is one thing, being able to experience as it happened, the same way most people experienced -- from media, is another.