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September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time
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#112I sometimes forget how surreal that day was. Was in high school at the time and sort of at “that age” where the world was still pretty small and revolved around me. Mom waking me up to say “you need to watch this,” with the TV on and both towers are on fire. The morning variety newscasters breaking their household familiarity speaking in a frightening shock that was so out of character. Still went to school that day…
I’m not sure at all the pandemic is going to be more significant historically. The 9/11 attacks did what Al-Qaeda intended them to - got the USA mired in an expensive, unwinnable war, which ultimately broke the US will to fight and seems to have resulted in a major reconfiguration of US foreign policy.
I believe a lot of the phenomena we see today, rampant conspiracies, misinformation, distrust in govt, political divisiveness, willingness to support a demagogue, rise in nationalism and domestic terrorism, can all be linked back to 9/11.
The goal of the attack was to strike fear into the hearts of Americans on a level that we simply couldn't comprehend, a lasting fear that fundamentally changes our society, a fear that individuals in the war-torn middle east had already lived with for decades up to that point. And I think it's clear that they accomplished their goal. Unfortunately, I also think it's clear we haven't seen the end of it.
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#113Is it just me or are all the channels broken with just old-school TV static? Maybe the server is overloaded with the HN & reddit hug of death.
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
Heart disease and cancer kill many more: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm... Beware the myopia that sensationalist news coverage tends to encourage. Never forget all the lives lost. Not just the 3000+ we lost on that horrible day (RIP), but the millions more around the world lost in the wake of the actions we chose, as a nation, to take in the "war on terror".
Heart disease and cancer aren't contagious, so your actions on that front will only improve your own life, while being a bit more careful with covid will potentially prevent sickness in a lot of people.
So heart disease and cancer don't take up ICU beds?
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#115A couple of months ago I listened to the Air Traffic Control recordings of the morning of the attacks, really puts in perspective the confusion and chaos in the air that day.
It's really haunting, includes calls from inside one of the planes (I think the one who crashed?) so be warned.
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I’m not sure at all the pandemic is going to be more significant historically. The 9/11 attacks did what Al-Qaeda intended them to - got the USA mired in an expensive, unwinnable war, which ultimately broke the US will to fight and seems to have resulted in a major reconfiguration of US foreign policy.
This. Al qaeda won. They destroyed the way of American life before 9-11. We are a different country now. So much government control over the last 20 years because of the 9-11 like TSA, Patriot act, massive government surveillance all in the name of “Homeland Security”. Anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers exist precisely because of 9-11. The distrust from all of the secret government acts is only part of the equation. The t…
I’m not sure why you’re getting downvoted. What you’re saying is accurate. I don’t think the terrorists had the foresight to predict this kind of fallout from 9/11, but it has certainly happened none the less.
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#117When reviewing 9/11 attacks (likely the biggest and most disastrous intelligence failure in U.S. history, give or take Pearl Harbor), it's worth remembering that it could have been much worse. If the first plane had hit Indian Point nuclear reactor what, 30 miles from NYC and upwind? It's likely a Chernobyl/Fukushima disaster would have resulted with an exclusion zone well into NYC. That was reportedly part of the pl…
Too many coincidences. Also we couldn't mobilize any fighter jets at all when a plane goes off course?
You can listen to real-time audio of FAA and NORAD track planes and scramble fighters [0]. This is not an easy task considering nobody knows what is happening and literally every plane in the country is being redirected and landed simultaneously.
[0] skip to about 20min https://youtu.be/DYBhgEm3j7A
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Social contagion is real. The U.S. has much higher rates of illness and death due to complications from obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure, etc, than other developed countries, because of our shared culture of poor diet and sedentary lifestyle. You pass on your way of life to your children. Your friends and family reinforce each other's decisions every time you make a meal, make plans, etc. This stuff is all vita…
Lifestyle changes are really really hard for people to make, though I agree that it would be great if someone figured out a way to turn that tide. Luckily getting a shot is really really easy, so we do have a lot of influence over deaths from COVID.
I agree with the point you've made. The OP I was responding to in my first comment seemed to be suggesting something more extreme than, "get vaccinated, and then go live your life".
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No, I didn't notice that. And if that's the intended use for this stupid website, then it's a terrible lesson plan they've made. It doesn't actually address any meaningful aspect to 9/11 besides make it appear to be from the "beforetimes."
Nothing wrong with aggregating records of a historical event and presenting them in real time without commentary. Put together the records and let them speak for the event. Your verbiage indicates the mere portrayal of what happened is deeply at odds with your opinions about it. Care to elaborate?
> This feels like some sort of opportunistic resume-building kind of project, made from the very real deaths of thousands of innocent people.
They dislike the current state of the tech industry and cannot stop thinking about it no matter what the topic.
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#120Wow, such a big event in US and world history. Zero top level comment reflects the historical missteps and lessons learned during these 20 years.
Guys, wake up. The world is changed and there is a reason. One who cannot understand the momentum behind history, is destined to repeat them.