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Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

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Post by tpmx »

bdcravens wrote: post #32
justinzollars wrote: post #26

This website is a really good resource. The thing I remember from that day, I was 18, was that every channel on cable tv cut over to news: MTV, VH1, History Channel, every channel. cnn.com wouldn't load because it was being ddosed by all of the requests.

> cnn.com wouldn't load because it was being ddosed by all of the requests Slashdot was one of the few sites that was able to stay up during that time, and it was struggling. Later in the day, CNN ripped out all their HTML, and put up a super simple design to optimize for staying up

Google quite quickly put up links to manually cached pages from e.g. CNN directly on the google.com start page.

https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/download/89...

Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

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Post by zrail »

dragonwriter wrote: post #28
dharmab wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> By the time I got out of training, the news cycle had moved on so it wasn't until the first anniversary of 9/11 that I saw the news footage of the event for the first time. This might seem strange to some younger readers, but remember in 01-02 internet video (and, indeed, internet faster than dial-up) was not ubiquitous. My family has a VHS tape recording of the news that day because that was how the average person…

> This might seem strange to some younger readers, but remember in 01-02 internet video (and, indeed, internet faster than dial-up) was not ubiquitous. And even if you used internet video (or, heck, even read news online), none of the sources (origins sites and Google and other portals) had the capacity to deal well with the major surge of associated with a event like 9/11. Everything online was spotty or broken unde…

I remember getting dismissed from school early and going to a friends house and trying to find news. The only site we could find that was actually responding was Slashdot, which went to text-only for the day and a few days following.

Edit: the metafilter thread gives a horrific moment-by-moment update stream if that's something you want to read: https://www.metafilter.com/10034/Plane-crashes-in-to-the-wor...

Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

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Post by theli0nheart »

dharmab wrote: post #23
phaedrus wrote: post #18

I was in USMC boot camp on 9/11/2001. You don't get much chance to consume media during training, and they put us on lock down and gave us only limited information. We knew kind of serious attack had happened, but not exactly what. By the time I got out of training, the news cycle had moved on so it wasn't until the first anniversary of 9/11 that I saw the news footage of the event for the first time. Coincidentally…

> By the time I got out of training, the news cycle had moved on so it wasn't until the first anniversary of 9/11 that I saw the news footage of the event for the first time. This might seem strange to some younger readers, but remember in 01-02 internet video (and, indeed, internet faster than dial-up) was not ubiquitous. My family has a VHS tape recording of the news that day because that was how the average person…

> This might seem strange to some younger readers, but remember in 01-02 internet video (and, indeed, internet faster than dial-up) was not ubiquitous. My family has a VHS tape recording of the news that day because that was how the average person preserved TV broadcasts.

TiVo was also pretty common, but as I recall I just watched on our TV.

Using the Internet for video in 2001 wasn't something anyone would even momentarily consider as realistic.

Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

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Post by chitowneats »

ISL wrote: post #44

If watching this footage makes you want to stand up and do something, remember that Covid-19 is killing as many people in the US every two days as died in these attacks. Take small steps to make the world a better place, helping your neighbors, and you can take a stand against entropy.

Heart disease and cancer kill many more:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm...

Beware the myopia that sensationalist news coverage tends to encourage.

Never forget all the lives lost. Not just the 3000+ we lost on that horrible day (RIP), but the millions more around the world lost in the wake of the actions we chose, as a nation, to take in the "war on terror".

Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

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Post by farmerstan »

rebuilder wrote: post #22
sharkweek wrote: post #5

I sometimes forget how surreal that day was. Was in high school at the time and sort of at “that age” where the world was still pretty small and revolved around me. Mom waking me up to say “you need to watch this,” with the TV on and both towers are on fire. The morning variety newscasters breaking their household familiarity speaking in a frightening shock that was so out of character. Still went to school that day…

I’m not sure at all the pandemic is going to be more significant historically. The 9/11 attacks did what Al-Qaeda intended them to - got the USA mired in an expensive, unwinnable war, which ultimately broke the US will to fight and seems to have resulted in a major reconfiguration of US foreign policy.

This.

Al qaeda won. They destroyed the way of American life before 9-11. We are a different country now. So much government control over the last 20 years because of the 9-11 like TSA, Patriot act, massive government surveillance all in the name of “Homeland Security”.

Anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers exist precisely because of 9-11. The distrust from all of the secret government acts is only part of the equation.

The trillions funneled into the military complex has starved the education system. We have literally produced idiots across the US because of a horrible educational system. They can’t think critically because they don’t have to. So 20 years of this, and you have a large percentage of the population that are literally stupid and can’t think critically. They would rather die than take a vaccine or wear a mask. This is what happens when you spend money on the military and illegal wars than the education of your population.

The pandemic is terrible. But 9-11 destroyed the US and put us on a horrible path that we may never recover from.

Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

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Post by ctdonath »

AndrewUnmuted wrote: post #48
dharmab wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you not get the intro pop-up explaining this is intended for use as part of a history class lesson plan for students born after 9/11?

No, I didn't notice that. And if that's the intended use for this stupid website, then it's a terrible lesson plan they've made. It doesn't actually address any meaningful aspect to 9/11 besides make it appear to be from the "beforetimes."

Nothing wrong with aggregating records of a historical event and presenting them in real time without commentary. Put together the records and let them speak for the event.

Your verbiage indicates the mere portrayal of what happened is deeply at odds with your opinions about it. Care to elaborate?

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